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Old 08-20-04 | 09:27 PM
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turbo timer?

hook up a turbo timer and before you leave set it to 3 mins. if it makes you feel more comfortable or just walk.?
Old 08-20-04 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scotty305
Hey gurus, for a super-short trip, something like 50-100 feet, would it be better to just drive the car cold for a few seconds and then shut it off? I know a lot of wear takes place while the car is still cold, due to clearances being out of whack and seals not being lubed well and jazz like that. So rather than spend a few minutes with the engine cold waiting for it to warm up , wouldn't it be better to spend 30 seconds pulling into the driveway/garage and then shutting back off?


I know this isn't exactly the type of subject this forum usually discusses, but it would be nice to hear some others' perspectives on this also.
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I would say let it warm up if you have the time, but if not then I wouldn't worry too much about moving it while it's cold.

...or do what I do and warm it up make the short trip, then keep the drive going and drive somewhere just for the hell of it.
Old 08-20-04 | 11:50 PM
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I never used to wait if I had to move it a very short distance, say back it out of the garage, etc...until a few months ago I did just that...backed it out of the garage, parked it, turned it off...and when I came to start it a couple of hours later, it was flooded. Ever since then, I've been so paranoid about having that happen again, that I just play it safe, and let her get warm. Besides, it's a great excuse to take her out for a quick spin! hehe
Old 08-21-04 | 12:43 AM
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Same here....never a problem
Old 08-21-04 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by scotty305
Hey gurus, for a super-short trip, something like 50-100 feet, would it be better to just drive the car cold for a few seconds and then shut it off? I know a lot of wear takes place while the car is still cold, due to clearances being out of whack and seals not being lubed well and jazz like that. So rather than spend a few minutes with the engine cold waiting for it to warm up , wouldn't it be better to spend 30 seconds pulling into the driveway/garage and then shutting back off?


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If your car has high miles and has been sitting up for months on end, I would let it run for a while to break down the carbon build-up. Otherwise if driven on a regular bases you should never have a problem(even with flooding). Also good spark plugs will help a great deal in situations like this(when preventing flooding). This coming from a guy who has owned 3 generations of Rx7's.

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Old 08-21-04 | 03:23 AM
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No problem ever, although I do think in advance and try not to move it just for a couple of feet if possible.
Old 08-21-04 | 09:56 AM
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Nope, since the cold start mode is very likely to flood the engine. Let it warm up or push it. When I drop my car off at the body shop next month I plan on paying the extra $150 "non-runner charge" and letting them push it around (I'm taking the ECU with me). The thought of cold short runs really scares me.
You have to pay a fee for that?


I have been bitten by the flood bug, but figured out if you have a Power FC you can turn the PIM volts down for 1000rpm and make the car die of fuel starvation, hence no flooding!
Old 08-21-04 | 11:01 AM
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This past week I've had to move my car all of 30ft every morning (moved from one side of the driveway to the other so my mom could leave for work). I'd turn it on and move it right away. Wouldnt wait at all for it to warm up any. Turbo timer set for 1min. Never had a problem at all.
Old 08-21-04 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Gamezilla
This past week I've had to move my car all of 30ft every morning (moved from one side of the driveway to the other so my mom could leave for work). I'd turn it on and move it right away. Wouldnt wait at all for it to warm up any. Turbo timer set for 1min. Never had a problem at all.
I think you might have misunderstood...ppl don't wait for the car to warm up before moving it....it's that they start it up, move the car immediately, and wait for it to warm up before shutting it down. You're pretty much doing the same by using the turbo timer...
Old 08-21-04 | 01:03 PM
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Start it, move it, shut it off. Just like any other car. You won't hurt it.

exactly... these engines arent that cheap.
Old 08-21-04 | 01:15 PM
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Hey how about a normal warm up how do you guys handle that? I normally just let it go through its initial 30 second warm up then I just keep it under 2500 rmp untill the Temp is at its normal position. Is that bad.
Old 08-21-04 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by adidashatesnike
Hey how about a normal warm up how do you guys handle that? I normally just let it go through its initial 30 second warm up then I just keep it under 2500 rmp untill the Temp is at its normal position. Is that bad.
I hope not...that's what I do...except I keep it under 3500. About a min later, by the time out of my neighborhood and in 3rd gear, it's up to normal temps...
Old 08-21-04 | 02:32 PM
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i will warm it up and move it ...^.^
Old 08-21-04 | 06:55 PM
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actually thats not a rule at all. i can just imagine you sitting in your garage for 2 minutes waiting to move your car into the driveway. my fd has never flooded ever, and i don't think it would if i started and stopped it all day. do you think the rx-8 has guidelines to starting up the car in the manual?
The RX-8 manual is actually quite specific about this. You're supposed to run the car for no less than 5 mins. The RX-8's have had a lot of problems with flooding and have had 3 new ECU flashes since their initial release. My dad hasn't had any trouble with his flooding out on him, but he's followed their warm-up and "anti-flood" procedures carefully. I've never had a problem with my FD, so he's starting to not be as worried about his RX-8.

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Old 08-22-04 | 04:19 PM
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I owned an RX-8 for a month and a half in the last winter and had it almost flood on me...The dealer said they had many issues of flooding. I did like the manual said basically.

It is good for any engine to let it warm-up and get the plugs heated to burn off carbon and fuel.
Old 08-22-04 | 04:51 PM
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Good thing Mazda has fixed the problem after how many decades of working with the rotary. Gives me great reassurance on the cars they put out.

Anyways... I start my car all the time for a min just to move it and have never had it flood cold.

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Old 08-23-04 | 12:18 AM
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I realize that it can be done, but I'm asking SHOULD it be done? If I've got a couple hours to kill, and I only need to move the car from the street to the driveway to wash it, should I just get it there quickly and spend the extra 5 minutes picking each individual hair off my interior carpet, or go for a 30-45 minute canyon run before washing the car at all?

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Old 08-23-04 | 10:31 AM
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I wait the revs come down from aws then I pull out of the driveway and keep it under 3k rpms until fully warmed up.In 2years of daily driving my fd I have flooded it 3 or 4 times usually it happens when I start it in neutral to pull out of my drive way and imediately shut down without letting it complete the accelerated warmup function,I think it floods when I do this and don't restart the car imediately after realizing what I did.
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You should prob. disable that AWS...unless you're fond of your cold engine revving at 3K!
Old 08-23-04 | 04:18 PM
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You should prob. disable that AWS...unless you're fond of your cold engine revving at 3K!
You beat me to it, Ramy. The accelerated warmup cannot be good for your motor.....start the car in gear from here on out.

Also, I never shut the car down bone cold. Usually go for a quick spin around the block, and try to count how many honeys check out the FD
Old 08-23-04 | 04:53 PM
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the way I look at it
its not so much the fact that you're running it for a long time while its cold.
its the fact that the engine has load on it during cold conditions.

so when its idling in ur garage, it may be running for a few minutes while cold..
but its just sitting there idling, the wear is going to be sooo minimal.

but if you drive it for 30sec-1min without warming it up first, the engine has to engage the transmission and pull the car, putting strain/wear/tear on its moving parts...
and those parts are cold, not properly lubed, and as previously stated, clearances are all out of wack..

which sounds better now?
Old 08-23-04 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tad
the way I look at it
its not so much the fact that you're running it for a long time while its cold.
its the fact that the engine has load on it during cold conditions.
They push/tow drag cars to the line so that the engines will be as cool as possible for the next pass, and you cool your engine between runs on the dyno. Is driving a few feet before your coolant and oil warms up really going to hurt it?

and those parts are cold
Not for long. Just because your coolant temp gauge hasn't moved doesn't mean the inside of the engine isn't plenty hot.

not properly lubed
Taken care of as soon as there's oil pressure.

clearances are all out of wack.
Excuse me? Clearances are measured cold.

Come on people, this isn't rocket science. Starting the car up and moving it a few yards before shutting it off isn't going to hurt anything.
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