jacobcartmill

iTrader: (6)

trevor, would you cry if this guy trapped faster than you on stock sequential twins?

cloead

Hah you act like this forum is my life? I don't post every single mod I do. That wasnt my only change..

I don't have a vid of the 117 trap, but I do have the timeslip, I'll post it if I have to. Heres a vid of the 12.3@115, since I guess I lied.

http://www.shockerjoe.com/12.3.wmv

Edit:: that link is dead, i guess i have to reupload at ugh.. streetfire.. oh well.
http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....A-7C2BAB93BBF7


I have the time slip of that too.

Oh, about the 12.7. If you read through the thread, you would read that I had massive ignition problems that night because of race fuel. I couldn't take the car past 6k rpms and it was hesitating the whole way there. The car should have run a better time. Also mind you, I am a shitty drag racer.

Oh, and why I think I should've went faster than a 12.3. When I cut a 1.8 60', and missed third, I ran a 12.3@114. When I had a crappy launch (wheelhopped like crazy, watch my back end in the vid) I still ran a 12.3@115. I think with a good launch (sub 2.0 60') and good shifting (no missed gears) I could have gotten into the lower 12's. But this is all heresay anyways, no more car.

cloead

Here's a really crappy pic (cellphone cam--sorry) of the 117 trap timeslip.

lotta-boost

HA HA!! Good Stuff!

cloead

It's not an IF.. it's the truth. Sorry if you have trouble accepting that. But basing your argument simply on the fact that I haven't made a new thread every time I made an upgrade/went to the track/dyno'ed my car/whatever is incredibly retarded.

t-von

iTrader: (8)

I agree. To add, at least you have the ***** to post your age on the forum. Everyone else seems to leave their birth year out for some reason.

cloead

Yeah I noticed that too. I don't really care.. It's not like I have anything to hide.

Ok wow its 5am, and I have to work tomarrow. I probably won't be able to reply to this thread untill after 8pm tomarrow night EST... so whatever bs calls get made between now and then will be answered to when I get home.

PS... If you need any more pics of my time slips or whatever else you can think of.. let me know. I'm not trying to bs anyone here, I have no real reason to lie. Besides, if youre just trying to defend your trap of 114... I already have that beat with the video of me going 12.3@115. And the timeslip proves my 117 trap, so I don't know what else you'll need... but I'm sure you'll think of something.

F0RSAKEN

Id guess that Ohio is a much better place to drag race than Arizona, what with the cooler temps (averaged out). Dyno room wouldnt reflect this as much though.

matty

dynos lie....lets talk trap....i went 118mph with stock twins/stock motor @ 15psi. i was going 115-116, then i slaped in a twin power and am trapping 118mph.

Btw, i made 359.8rwhp on the dyno @ 15psi.

matty

read above. its not a big deal at all.

JaNusSolSumnus

Trevor, just out of curiosity, what are all your modifications? How much boost were you running with that tune 11.1:1afr tune?

I'm mostly curious about your fuel system and ECU... I'm in the midst of my rebuild and want reliable power, my goal was only 300rwhp but you are making some nice numbers and make it seem like 320rwhp would be fully obtainable with whats going into my car... information is in my signature.

~Kris

Trevor

cloead - Awesome...well good on ya then. Like I said though...things didn't add up so I had to ask the question. You know how it is with random losers on car boards that talk a big game. It's good to see you're not one of them.

So obviously the twin power helped clear up the ignition issues. I assume you got the car tuned...or at least leaned out the fuel some yourself? Were you still running the PFC base timing maps or did you work those too? How much timing and split? How much boost? Still your normal 14-15 psi? Anything else I should try?

As far as Ohio racing goes Norwalk is at 713' altitude and usually has some thick air. Alot of people go relatively fast there. I ran my 114.5 mph here in Tucson which is about 2750' (actually the track tower says 3075' but they're full of it). 16.0 psi here is like running 17.2 psi at Norwalk. Maybe I need to turn down the boost.

You're still sequential right matty? Awesome! What's your timing and split set at?

Kris - here's my mods:
Power FC with my tune
RX7Fashion Intake
Bomez upper intake pipe
Koyo
NPG-R
ASP Medium SMIC w/10" Spal Fan
Greddy Elbow
SMC denatured alcohol injection (631cc/min nozzle)
HKS Twinpower
9's all around
Megan racing downpipe & midpipe
Racing beat catback
Neo Synth driveline fluids
ACT Xtreme plate with a full face street disk
28lb blingin' wheels

Don't confuse me filtering thru the internet BS and gathering info for me being butt-hurt. Look in my sig...my other car goes 11.1's and cuts 1.55 60's in pure street mode. The 552 AWHP was at 23 psi...it's now tuned for 30 psi. I'm not going to get wrapped around the axle if someone goes faster than my beater of an FD that only has some minor bolt-ons.

JaNusSolSumnus

Wow, and nothing on the fuel system? Stock injectors, FPR and pump?

Good god, 320rwhp at 12psi should be a cakewalk for me! I'd be so happy if I managed those numbers.

~Kris

Trevor

Yep...stock injectors, FPR, and pump. The pump is still on the stock power system even (no hotwire). 11.3:1 gets me 88% IDC or so at 16 psi.

The alcohol makes a big difference in IDC's. I could go bigger on the alcohol setup...maybe switch to two 442 cc/min injectors like I run in the Stealth but with that much spraying the "low alcohol" light turns on after only 12-13 passes. 1/2 gallon goes fast!

J-Rat

iTrader: (2)

Shoot Jakey poo, you cried everytime i beat your FC times!

cloead

I was still running the same base map that I got with the power fc. Idk.. it just seemed to work, plus I was way too afraid to mess with it.

I still think the car had a high 11 sec pass in it. With a 1.8 60' and good shifting I don't see why I couldn't hit 11.9, or lower. If you go by the 3 tenths off your 1/4 for every .1 off your 60', then that should have been possible. I don't know why the car was so fast. Stock port, stock motor, 88k miles. I was running 14.5psi as per the boost gauge on my PFC. My autometer boost gauge always read WAYYYY off. With the car off, it sat at 3psi. 14.5psi = the autometer gauge was pegging out. It looked super cool but it was really annoying.

Junk yard came and got my FD today. Talk about depressing.

Trevor

OK...thanks for the info!

Kinda confirms that you can run a rotary really rich and still make decent power...just as long as you have enough ignition to light the charge without misfiring.

rynberg

Given the known Commander display issues, 14.5 psi on the Commander = more like 15.5+ psi in reality. (Unless you have recalibrated the PIM offset.)

cloead

Yeah I read that, but I doubt that was the case because my dyno numbers and a/f ratios definitly didnt reflect those of 15.5psi+. Idk. Oh well.

7upRacing

12.8@ 114 MPH ? not bad, But I have gone 12.0 @ 118 MPH In high altitude (5800ft )(Bandamere, Denver Co)Looking to Go low 11's this year @ sea level(atco,NJ)Stock twins, Still seqental, street ported motor, But I Have added alcahol injection this year (no times yet)

Mr. international

damn sorry to hear to wrecked your car, i didint know........

dubulup

I wonder how saxyman's seq. "custom" solenoids could handle more boost? is this your rejuvenation? or did you get new stockers?

Trevor

We're more leaning toward talking about non-ported motors here (pretty much stock with bolt-ons). Ported wise though it looks like Brooks Weisblat went 11.43@120.35 with stock sequential twins a few years ago before he jumped ship. That's the best I could find ET and MPH wise.

Yeah...the 12.8 doesn't match the 114.5 very well. Even on regular radials I should be able to manage better than that. Only been out at the track twice with this complete setup. One time track prep was absolutely horrible and the other time it was OK at best (when I went 12.8). With a sticky track and a more aggressive launch I should be able to improve.

dubulup

If I remember your pics of your alky set-up, I think you were still running the stock IC? I wonder if you put something in that flows better, if you could make more power (I know your alky probably gets the temps you are looking for...but wonder how much power can be pulled from flow)

Trevor

I've got an ASP medium in the car now.
http://members.***.net/trevorlj/done.JPG