making Carbon Fiber brake duct backing plates - pics
10-09-04 | 08:33 PM
#28
Super Snuggles
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From: Redmond, WA
Originally Posted by damian
wtf? make up some ****? hahah, boy did you read that wrong, my point was that getting ANY air there will help.
10-10-04 | 04:20 AM
#32
>>so it'd be a shame to make up some **** about low pressure areas in the center of the rotor being enough to pull the air in and leave the lip off.
Where did I say this Jim?
I just reread all my posts in here and none of them say anything about low pressure pulling air thru.
Also re-read the link i attached. Still no mention of low pressure.
This is about the closest comment i could find. And all that was infered by it was that he had bigger rotors with a bigger hole to ram air thru. ( If the eye is any bigger
)Sorry i wasn't more clear
"I forgot about your mongo rotors. They will definetly get the air to the hole. Makes sense with the bigger CF surface area than ours"
Where did I say this Jim?
I just reread all my posts in here and none of them say anything about low pressure pulling air thru.
Also re-read the link i attached. Still no mention of low pressure.
This is about the closest comment i could find. And all that was infered by it was that he had bigger rotors with a bigger hole to ram air thru. ( If the eye is any bigger
)Sorry i wasn't more clear"I forgot about your mongo rotors. They will definetly get the air to the hole. Makes sense with the bigger CF surface area than ours"
Last edited by BigIslandSevens; 10-10-04 at 04:41 AM.
10-10-04 | 06:37 AM
#33
Zoom-ing Goon.
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From: Cape Cod, MA
right on..good to see peolpe making parts that serve a purpose..and i agree, some air is better than none and you cant expect to make the perfect part right off the bat, or else the aftermarket would be screwed with people making their own parts..did i mention thats a bad *** job you did? very kewl.. do you have a price on the complete setup when its finished?
10-10-04 | 07:04 AM
#34
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From: Dallas
Originally Posted by damian
unless my shop guy wants to take a crack at it while i work on other things with the car
10-10-04 | 10:57 AM
#35
Super Snuggles
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From: Redmond, WA
Originally Posted by BigIslandSevens
Where did I say this Jim?
"Just because the CF plate covers the entire rotor face does NOT mean that we are dumping all the air onto the rotor face."
Those statements implied what Damian was saying more articulately; specifically that a low pressure area at the center of the rotor would be enough to pull all the air through into the vanes of the rotor, and that none of it could possibly escape to the face of the rotor.
How dare anyone doubt the DESIGN simply based on pictures of the components in question... after all, you'd described the THEORY of how it would work quite well, hadn't you?
10-10-04 | 11:22 AM
#36
Not quite sure how I mispoke. Or how those statements imply that a low pressure is going to pull the air into the vanes, Please show me how that implies that. The fact that i say we are " Dumping" the air in should eliminate any implication of a vaccum. After all they suck not blow or force air into anything.
Sorry Jim if you took my statements the wrong way. i don't think anyone else thought I was implying that. Even with the quote you put it is very apparent to me that i am talking about forcing air in not relying on a vaccum from ther rotor, That would be a stupid claim And i NEVER made it. I Also had stated that i know our designs are not perfect. And that some air would be lost but that the desired effect of the ducts would be achieved,,,, Getting more air to the brakes.
Maybe i am not seeing what you see in those words. Sorry man. I NEVER intended to imply that a Low pressure would pull air in. And you are the first person to get that implication as well.
I have also never told anyone that was "doubting " our designs that there input was wrong! I agreed to it ALL and just poited out that we based the designs off of actual working units. As you said it is hard to tell everything from pics.. Hell I even said that too
Sorry Jim if you took my statements the wrong way. i don't think anyone else thought I was implying that. Even with the quote you put it is very apparent to me that i am talking about forcing air in not relying on a vaccum from ther rotor, That would be a stupid claim
And i NEVER made it. I Also had stated that i know our designs are not perfect. And that some air would be lost but that the desired effect of the ducts would be achieved,,,, Getting more air to the brakes.Maybe i am not seeing what you see in those words. Sorry man. I NEVER intended to imply that a Low pressure would pull air in. And you are the first person to get that implication as well.
I have also never told anyone that was "doubting " our designs that there input was wrong! I agreed to it ALL and just poited out that we based the designs off of actual working units. As you said it is hard to tell everything from pics.. Hell I even said that too
Last edited by BigIslandSevens; 10-10-04 at 11:30 AM.
10-10-04 | 11:48 AM
#38
Originally Posted by 180sx-x
right on..good to see peolpe making parts that serve a purpose..and i agree, some air is better than none and you cant expect to make the perfect part right off the bat, or else the aftermarket would be screwed with people making their own parts..did i mention thats a bad *** job you did? very kewl.. do you have a price on the complete setup when its finished?
10-10-04 | 11:50 AM
#39
Originally Posted by DamonB
Given the gorgeous job your guy did with the hose attachement parts it would be no problem. All he needs to do is make a part like that which is of course bigger in diameter. Of course the rotors need to be available for fitting it up.
10-10-04 | 08:28 PM
#44
damn damian that is a really nice job....i was also wondering...i know you go to track events and all but is that lift in your house garage? thats my dream..my own shop in my own garage...someday i will own a house...well great work man and peace out
10-11-04 | 10:24 AM
#47
hey mr.stock, they dont weigh enough for me to weight htem at the shop, they only have cornerscales that are 1lbs incraments, and it dosnt even register on the scale :-) it feels like having a piece of paper in your hand.
RoadAmerica event details can be found here, this is the club that puts on this particular event:
http://www.speedseekers.com/
Here is RoadAmericas website:
http://www.roadamerica.com/
dunno why ntech dosnt make them out of cf, cf is harder to work with that aluminum, with the resin and mess. i was goin to buy n-techs until i found out they were aluminum, i really wanted cf cuz im a cf freak :-)
RoadAmerica event details can be found here, this is the club that puts on this particular event:
http://www.speedseekers.com/
Here is RoadAmericas website:
http://www.roadamerica.com/
dunno why ntech dosnt make them out of cf, cf is harder to work with that aluminum, with the resin and mess. i was goin to buy n-techs until i found out they were aluminum, i really wanted cf cuz im a cf freak :-)
10-11-04 | 11:57 AM
#48
I have the CW ducts but with no hose directly bring air into the hole. From memory, they have no lip and fit to the spindle hub just like Damian's. Just thought I'd throw that out there for those wanting to compare.
Tim
Tim
