3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Looking for an R1 lip? Some info....

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-13-05 | 07:01 PM
  #26  
rotorsownyou7's Avatar
Slow RX-7
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,715
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Uhh, the screws?

Dave

Uhh, I have no screws? I am not that dumb. I am saying I have nothing under my bumper, just holes. The car came like that.
Old 01-13-05 | 07:05 PM
  #27  
rotorsownyou7's Avatar
Slow RX-7
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,715
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Originally Posted by 2-Rotor
The hardware is like 8 10mm bolts that hold the bottom molding to the front bottom part of the bumper. You will simply remove the 10mm bolts slide out what you have exisiting and slide the new R1 lip in place of it. Its real simple.

What I am saying is that I have nothing existing under my bumper, which means I have no hardware I guess. Guess I will have to rig something.
Old 01-13-05 | 08:02 PM
  #28  
dgeesaman's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 12,311
Likes: 22
From: Hershey PA
Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
Uhh, I have no screws? I am not that dumb. I am saying I have nothing under my bumper, just holes. The car came like that.
I know. I was just being a jackass

Seriously, it's the same screws that hold on the other lip types, and like the other said, brake ducts. They're about $40/ea IIRC.

Dave
Old 01-13-05 | 08:35 PM
  #29  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Thread Starter
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,580
Likes: 567
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
What I am saying is that I have nothing existing under my bumper, which means I have no hardware I guess. Guess I will have to rig something.
zip ties.
Old 01-13-05 | 10:24 PM
  #30  
FDNewbie's Avatar
Sponsor
RX7Club Vendor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 13,216
Likes: 4
From: Tampa, FL
Originally Posted by spike.spiegel
is the R1 front lip different than the R2 front lip? i have a 94 base and want to make sure the R1 lip will fit.

btw, anyone have any info re: the R1 front lip from a performance standpoint?
Originally Posted by SpeedKing
Nope. It will fit fine.
Gil, I'm not arguing w/ you over fitment, but I'm 99.99% sure the R1 and R2 front lips are indeed different. Living only a few min from PFS, I've seen a TON of diff FDs, the vast majority of which are 93s. You know how I almost immediately spot R2s (from R1s), whether it be at the shop or at local meets? The lip. The R1 lip is more flat, much more like a splitter. The R2 lip is much more rounded I guess you can say? And the material it's made of looks a lot more like rubber than the plasticy look off the R1 lip. Def. apparently different if you know what you're looking for (I have a 94 R2, so I noticed the diff off the bat).

Last edited by FDNewbie; 01-13-05 at 10:26 PM.
Old 01-13-05 | 10:49 PM
  #31  
dark phoenix's Avatar
been there, done that

 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
From: San Leandro, California
R1/R2, R2D2 it's all the same lip just a different name.
Old 01-14-05 | 01:00 AM
  #32  
Narfle's Avatar
Rx7 Wagon
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 6,990
Likes: 876
From: California
dude, the 93 94 and 95 lips are round. the splitter you refer to is the 99spec. and im 100% positive.
Old 01-14-05 | 01:54 AM
  #33  
RX7UP's Avatar
BOYCOTT EXXON MOBIL!!!
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,048
Likes: 0
From: Westchester County, New York. USA
Gotta get me a R1 lip!
Old 01-14-05 | 04:51 AM
  #34  
dgeesaman's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 12,311
Likes: 22
From: Hershey PA
R1 and R2 cars have the same lip. Same part number, same thing.

It's the 99 specs that are a little different.
Old 01-14-05 | 05:33 AM
  #35  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Thread Starter
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,580
Likes: 567
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Gil, I'm not arguing w/ you over fitment, but I'm 99.99% sure the R1 and R2 front lips are indeed different. Living only a few min from PFS, I've seen a TON of diff FDs, the vast majority of which are 93s. You know how I almost immediately spot R2s (from R1s), whether it be at the shop or at local meets? The lip. The R1 lip is more flat, much more like a splitter. The R2 lip is much more rounded I guess you can say? And the material it's made of looks a lot more like rubber than the plasticy look off the R1 lip. Def. apparently different if you know what you're looking for (I have a 94 R2, so I noticed the diff off the bat).
I think you may be confusing the R1 lip and the 99 lip. My R1 lip was nice and rounded, while the 99 is more angular. I have talked to Ray hundreds of times while dealing with him at the shop, and he never mentioned anything other than the R1 lip.
Old 01-14-05 | 06:55 AM
  #36  
EFS.O's Avatar
?????????????
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 512
Likes: 0
From: Greece
So,is there any fellow member,kind enough to by one for me,and ship it to Greece?
I can pay with paypal..
Old 01-14-05 | 08:54 AM
  #37  
RX 4 Speed's Avatar
1993 VR FD Touring

 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: USA
General question about Ray @ Malloy... what other parts does he sell besides R1 lips? I am guessing ALL OEM parts for our FD's? If so, that is great... if parts go out on me, I will know where to get them.

thanks.
Old 01-14-05 | 09:33 AM
  #38  
FDNewbie's Avatar
Sponsor
RX7Club Vendor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 13,216
Likes: 4
From: Tampa, FL
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
R1 and R2 cars have the same lip. Same part number, same thing.

It's the 99 specs that are a little different.
Originally Posted by Barban
dude, the 93 94 and 95 lips are round. the splitter you refer to is the 99spec. and im 100% positive.
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I think you may be confusing the R1 lip and the 99 lip. My R1 lip was nice and rounded, while the 99 is more angular. I have talked to Ray hundreds of times while dealing with him at the shop, and he never mentioned anything other than the R1 lip.
Hmmm. It's not that I don't believe you guys... I just highly doubt ALL those other cars I've seen were running 99spec lips - and I know what the 99spec lip looks like. Guess I'm gonna have to go back and check again?
Old 01-14-05 | 11:01 AM
  #39  
reinhart's Avatar
Junior Member

 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
r1 lip ordered

Just ordered mine. Ray says he is out of stock at the moment, but says he has more coming in next week and will ship it then. $106 plus change shipped. Thanks for letting us all know.
Old 01-14-05 | 11:05 AM
  #40  
LAracer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 592
Likes: 0
From: Los Alamos, NM
Guess I ordered mine just in time. Thanks for this tip GoodfellaFD3S
Old 01-14-05 | 11:09 AM
  #41  
keynote22's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 806
Likes: 0
From: fly over state
I got mine ordered
Thanks for the info goodfella!
I just got off the phone with him.
Malloy is the first official sponsor of the Revolution this year... more great deals on site (a whole truck load he said )
Old 01-14-05 | 11:44 AM
  #42  
dgeesaman's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 12,311
Likes: 22
From: Hershey PA
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Hmmm. It's not that I don't believe you guys... I just highly doubt ALL those other cars I've seen were running 99spec lips - and I know what the 99spec lip looks like. Guess I'm gonna have to go back and check again?
It's possible that the original R1 and R2 lips had a different finish, but replacement part is the same.

Dave
Old 01-14-05 | 11:45 AM
  #43  
adam c's Avatar
Cheap Bastard
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,370
Likes: 50
From: San Luis Obispo, Ca
Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
What I am saying is that I have nothing existing under my bumper, which means I have no hardware I guess. Guess I will have to rig something.
The screws that hold on the lip are the same ones that hold on the belly pan. If you have a belly pan, then you have at least some of the hardware. The bolts that hold it on are the same 10mm thread pattern as the rest of the car. You can get them at any hardware store. The clips that the bolts go into can be purchased from any Mazda dealer for about $1.50 each.

I had to drop my belly pan to get enough leverage to get the new lip to snap into place. I was not able to get the little hooks to eaisily push thru the plastic. The hooks act to hold the lip in place if you remove the belly pan to work on something underneath.
Old 01-14-05 | 12:08 PM
  #44  
rotorsownyou7's Avatar
Slow RX-7
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,715
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Originally Posted by adam c
The screws that hold on the lip are the same ones that hold on the belly pan. If you have a belly pan, then you have at least some of the hardware. The bolts that hold it on are the same 10mm thread pattern as the rest of the car. You can get them at any hardware store. The clips that the bolts go into can be purchased from any Mazda dealer for about $1.50 each.

I had to drop my belly pan to get enough leverage to get the new lip to snap into place. I was not able to get the little hooks to eaisily push thru the plastic. The hooks act to hold the lip in place if you remove the belly pan to work on something underneath.
No belly pan, guess thats it.
Old 01-14-05 | 03:34 PM
  #45  
FDNewbie's Avatar
Sponsor
RX7Club Vendor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 13,216
Likes: 4
From: Tampa, FL
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
It's possible that the original R1 and R2 lips had a different finish, but replacement part is the same.

Dave
Dave, definitely possible...or I'm just wrong lol. I'm gonna do some snoopin around when I get a chance
Old 01-14-05 | 04:24 PM
  #46  
7_rocket's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,141
Likes: 45
From: Toronto
Originally Posted by RX 4 Speed
General question about Ray @ Malloy... what other parts does he sell besides R1 lips? I am guessing ALL OEM parts for our FD's? If so, that is great... if parts go out on me, I will know where to get them.

thanks.
You are correct sir. He told me all oem stuff for the 93-95 FD
Old 01-14-05 | 04:58 PM
  #47  
dgeesaman's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 12,311
Likes: 22
From: Hershey PA
Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
No belly pan, guess thats it.
You better put one on unless you've fabbed or ducted a substitute.

The OEM screws are just washer-head screws (10mm drive, M4(?) thread) and any fitting screw and fender washer work fine. In fact, get stainless since the stock ones rust.

Ramy, the parts list from '95 shows there was only one part number for all R models. If they had two different varieties available, there would be two numbers and info on which build dates get which.

Dave
Attached Thumbnails Looking for an R1 lip? Some info....-untitled1.gif  

Last edited by dgeesaman; 01-14-05 at 05:02 PM.
Old 01-14-05 | 05:21 PM
  #48  
FDNewbie's Avatar
Sponsor
RX7Club Vendor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 13,216
Likes: 4
From: Tampa, FL
Dave, ok I guess I stand corrected... (I'm STILL gonna keep an eye out for 'em tho LOL... <----stubborn )
Old 01-14-05 | 05:39 PM
  #49  
dgeesaman's Avatar
Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 12,311
Likes: 22
From: Hershey PA
Originally Posted by FDNewbie
Dave, ok I guess I stand corrected... (I'm STILL gonna keep an eye out for 'em tho LOL... <----stubborn )
Well for example you saw my R2 at the BBQ and I had refinished mine. So it looked close, but not the same. I know a lot of folks do it.

Dave
Old 01-14-05 | 05:42 PM
  #50  
FDNewbie's Avatar
Sponsor
RX7Club Vendor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 13,216
Likes: 4
From: Tampa, FL
Originally Posted by dgeesaman
Well for example you saw my R2 at the BBQ and I had refinished mine. So it looked close, but not the same. I know a lot of folks do it.

Dave
Hold up...you were at the BBQ?? Which BBQ? I didn't even know I met you before...


Quick Reply: Looking for an R1 lip? Some info....



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:15 PM.