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Old 08-06-04, 01:10 AM
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Talking Look At These Crazy Rotor Caliper Combo I Found Blow Ur Mind

I Found These In A Drag Racing Magazine So I Went To The Web Sit . I Know Its Mostly Domestic Parts But They May Make These In A Universal Application. Here Is The Link If You Want To Check Them Out ... Hands Down Has To Be The Craziest Combo Ive Ever Seen
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Ya ive seen these in <cough> super street <cough>. I wonder if anyone has them.... And to quote a very familar quote from our own rogue "......I believe the only pistons in a car should be in there brakes." LOL . Sorry I looked at your sig.
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drag racing brakes = one time only, heat not a consideration. Besides Ferrari's have two seperate calipers on the rear. One is the parking brake. This is nothing new.
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http://emporium.markwilliams.com/pro...sp?prodid=3140 HERE IS THE LINK TO CHECK OUT THOSE BRAKES
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Vipers have that little rear caliper for the parking brake too. Lots of high end cars have them since the damn things roll on so much rubber. That much brake pad surface area isn't necessary unless you have some real wide wheels that aren't of large enough diameter to use bigger rotors.
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you want to stop fast, get a set up like this

ok so it may be over kill, but it would still be fun to have.
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Does anyone in this thread realize that your brakes aren't what determines stopping distance if they're large enough that they won't fade at the speed you're stopping from?

You can only lock them up, or preferably, with threshold braking or ABS, stay just on the verge of lock up. Past that point, do you know what's stopping your car? Think hard...
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Try some auto parts brakes and some really sticky tires. You'll be amazed how well the car stops
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GET QUALITY TIRES FIRST!! If you start getting brake fade, upgrade to stainless steel brake lines and racing fluid... If you still get fade THEN upgrade to bigger brakes. It's also more cost effective to upgrade this way
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they may work well for drag racing but are not designed for a "sportscar" application. the rotor has no mass to absorb the heat. secondly the second caliper masks the rotor so it is less able to radiate the absorbed heat. they would warp in 15 minutes of driving on a canyon road or at the track.

as Jim L indicates, once you can lock up the wheels any further gripping force is wasted. the issue w the Fd is rotor mass not the calipers.

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Originally Posted by jimlab
Does anyone in this thread realize that your brakes aren't what determines stopping distance if they're large enough that they won't fade at the speed you're stopping from?

You can only lock them up, or preferably, with threshold braking or ABS, stay just on the verge of lock up. Past that point, do you know what's stopping your car? Think hard...
...feet?! like in the Flintstones? no no just kidding i know it's really the angle of your drift right, depending on the slope of Japanese downhill road that is.



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Originally Posted by neit_jnf
GET QUALITY TIRES FIRST!! If you start getting brake fade, upgrade to stainless steel brake lines and racing fluid... If you still get fade THEN upgrade to bigger brakes. It's also more cost effective to upgrade this way
?? Upgrading the fluid isn't going to automatically going to cure that. This is on the assumption that you're getting to the point of actually boiling the fluid. And SS lines would give you a firmer pedal for a bit before it fades anyway.


If your brakes are good enough for repeated braking without fade, then your tires are ultimately your stopping distance factor. Get some nice warmed up r compound tires and I'm sure that you'll stop a lot sooner.
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Isn't that what I just said in CAPS in the first sentence?
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Does anyone in this thread realize that your brakes aren't what determines stopping distance if they're large enough that they won't fade at the speed you're stopping from?

You can only lock them up, or preferably, with threshold braking or ABS, stay just on the verge of lock up. Past that point, do you know what's stopping your car? Think hard...
Come on Jim.. You know if it's in magazines, way bigger than stock, is marked "JDM" or "SPEC", or is outrageously overpriced.. it must be better, right?

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I agree with Howard and Jim Lab..

So, what do you guys about this set up that I saw last weekend.. It was on this NSX that I saw.. the guy was an *** and acted like he knew everything.. I personally can't really see how this would improve braking.. or is it just for looks?? I could see that it could lower the mass and maybe made with some special material to lessen the warpage..

Front:

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close up
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Originally Posted by herblenny
So, what do you guys about this set up that I saw last weekend.. close up
Wow. Wonder if he's ever stepped on the brake pedal? I would imagine they would be very fragile.









Also, did anyone else notice the original thread starter typed every single word beginning with a capital letter? Off topic, but I thought it was kinda weird.
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Originally Posted by herblenny
I agree with Howard and Jim Lab..

So, what do you guys about this set up that I saw last weekend.. It was on this NSX that I saw.. the guy was an *** and acted like he knew everything.. I personally can't really see how this would improve braking.. or is it just for looks?? I could see that it could lower the mass and maybe made with some special material to lessen the warpage..

Front:

Rear

close up
I certainly hope that car never sees a track.
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Originally Posted by herblenny
So, what do you guys about this set up that I saw last weekend.
Those rotors are made from Titanium, I believe. I've seen them very recently in a magazine (domestic), but can't remember which one. I believe it was Vette.
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Originally Posted by herblenny
I agree with Howard and Jim Lab..

So, what do you guys about this set up that I saw last weekend.. It was on this NSX that I saw.. the guy was an *** and acted like he knew everything.. I personally can't really see how this would improve braking.. or is it just for looks?? I could see that it could lower the mass and maybe made with some special material to lessen the warpage..

Front:

Rear

close up

Not t break the subject too much, but where did he get those center caps?
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whats up with the tiny rear caliper?
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Originally Posted by re_rotary7
whats up with the tiny rear caliper?
The rear brakes only do about 15% of the braking chores. You don't need huge calipers in the back.
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nice wheels :p
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The Brake Man

OKAY I FOUND THOSE BRAKE KIT SHOWN ABOVE ON THE NSX

http://thebrakeman.com/stormkitlist

I TALKED TO THESE GUYS AT NOPI '03 THEY SAID THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR FD'S BUT ON THE APPLICATION LIST ON THEIR SITE THEY ARE NOT SHOWN
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Those rotors are made from Titanium, I believe. I've seen them very recently in a magazine (domestic), but can't remember which one. I believe it was Vette.
so are they all show or would they actually hold together under heavy use?


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