Latest generation of Racing Beat dual tip muffler
12-21-02 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Goober
Could of just been in my head since that car wasnt super loud anymore.
Or since I had my big old fat friend with me in the car when I was driving it around after the swap. Who knows? Just glad the car doesnt have a big old cannon on the back of it now...
Could of just been in my head since that car wasnt super loud anymore.
Or since I had my big old fat friend with me in the car when I was driving it around after the swap. Who knows? Just glad the car doesnt have a big old cannon on the back of it now...
12-21-02 | 12:44 PM
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Your butt dyno is optimistic...I can tell 255 from 275 hp. But I couldn't tell between a 255 and 265 hp FD Rx7. I can definitely tell betwen a 255 and a 305 hp FD Rx7.
It's like when the '95 M3s came out with 236 hp, and then in '96 they came out with 240 hp. Oh boy! Same with Porsche. They came out with a 270-hp 993, in '95. In '96 they released Varioram, and the 3.6-L flat six made 282 hp. I could barely tell the difference 12 hp made. Now torque was more noticeable at the lower end, but not much else.
No I stand by my 20-hp butt dyno difference.
Uhh...you haven't been at any of the drivers education events I have instructed at have you..?
It's like when the '95 M3s came out with 236 hp, and then in '96 they came out with 240 hp. Oh boy! Same with Porsche. They came out with a 270-hp 993, in '95. In '96 they released Varioram, and the 3.6-L flat six made 282 hp. I could barely tell the difference 12 hp made. Now torque was more noticeable at the lower end, but not much else.
No I stand by my 20-hp butt dyno difference.
Uhh...you haven't been at any of the drivers education events I have instructed at have you..?
Originally posted by kento1
I don't agree. If that's the case, then I must have gained at least 20 hp when I installed my CB, because I most definitely noticed a power increase, especially in the low end (primary turbo) stage (and it wasn't the "gee, the car sounds fast" illusion). Not so much after the secondary turbo kicked in. Although I did have a K&N replacement stock air filter. I think if your
is calibrated correctly 
, you'd be able to notice a 10-15 hp increase in acceleration in the lower gears-- although a 10-15 hp increase on the very top of the power curve might be difficult to notice. The FD's power/weight ratio is good enough that relatively small power increases like that should be noticeable if you're a good driver. Just my $0.02 worth....
I don't agree. If that's the case, then I must have gained at least 20 hp when I installed my CB, because I most definitely noticed a power increase, especially in the low end (primary turbo) stage (and it wasn't the "gee, the car sounds fast" illusion). Not so much after the secondary turbo kicked in. Although I did have a K&N replacement stock air filter. I think if your
is calibrated correctly , you'd be able to notice a 10-15 hp increase in acceleration in the lower gears-- although a 10-15 hp increase on the very top of the power curve might be difficult to notice. The FD's power/weight ratio is good enough that relatively small power increases like that should be noticeable if you're a good driver. Just my $0.02 worth....
Last edited by SleepR1; 12-21-02 at 12:48 PM.
12-21-02 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by SleepR1
Your butt dyno is optimistic...I can tell 255 from 275 hp. But I couldn't tell between a 255 and 265 hp FD Rx7. I can definitely tell betwen a 255 and a 305 hp FD Rx7.
It's like when the '95 M3s came out with 236 hp, and then in '96 they came out with 240 hp. Oh boy! Same with Porsche. They came out with a 270-hp 993, in '95. In '96 they released Varioram, and the 3.6-L flat six made 282 hp. I could barely tell the difference 12 hp made. Now torque was more noticeable at the lower end, but not much else.
No I stand by my 20-hp butt dyno difference.
Uhh...you haven't been at any of the drivers education events I have instructed at have you..?
Your butt dyno is optimistic...I can tell 255 from 275 hp. But I couldn't tell between a 255 and 265 hp FD Rx7. I can definitely tell betwen a 255 and a 305 hp FD Rx7.
It's like when the '95 M3s came out with 236 hp, and then in '96 they came out with 240 hp. Oh boy! Same with Porsche. They came out with a 270-hp 993, in '95. In '96 they released Varioram, and the 3.6-L flat six made 282 hp. I could barely tell the difference 12 hp made. Now torque was more noticeable at the lower end, but not much else.
No I stand by my 20-hp butt dyno difference.
Uhh...you haven't been at any of the drivers education events I have instructed at have you..?
No, I haven't attended a "drivers education" school per se; only a Derek Daly driving school.
12-21-02 | 01:42 PM
#54
Originally posted by SleepR1
Your butt dyno is optimistic...I can tell 255 from 275 hp. But I couldn't tell between a 255 and 265 hp FD Rx7. I can definitely tell betwen a 255 and a 305 hp FD Rx7.
Your butt dyno is optimistic...I can tell 255 from 275 hp. But I couldn't tell between a 255 and 265 hp FD Rx7. I can definitely tell betwen a 255 and a 305 hp FD Rx7.
12-21-02 | 04:33 PM
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I have an old butt dyno...which just means I need MORE hp for me to tell a difference. That's bad for my wallet! I'm hoping to add 100 hp more next year, but that's another thread.
Derek Daly Academy eh, so you do know where you're coming from when you talk about driving skill...
Funny you bring up high end audio. I have a polarity invert switch on my Adcom GDA 600 Digital-to-A converter (stand alone DSP), and believe or not some music CDs sound better with the polarity INVERTED. It's said that most record producers don't keep track of the polarity during the original recording sesssions, so it's a 50/50 chance that your CD is produced with the proper polarity or inverted polarity. There are those that say they cannot tell the difference, but I can for whatever reason. I don't think I can hear BETTER than someone else. In fact my wife claims I can't hear her most of the time (hee hee )
Anyhow, music is my first passion, which is why I needed to get the quieter Racing Beat dual tip exhaust, lest I lose my hearing ability forever
BTW, I did write "my butt" dyno, not kento1's
Derek Daly Academy eh, so you do know where you're coming from when you talk about driving skill...
Funny you bring up high end audio. I have a polarity invert switch on my Adcom GDA 600 Digital-to-A converter (stand alone DSP), and believe or not some music CDs sound better with the polarity INVERTED. It's said that most record producers don't keep track of the polarity during the original recording sesssions, so it's a 50/50 chance that your CD is produced with the proper polarity or inverted polarity. There are those that say they cannot tell the difference, but I can for whatever reason. I don't think I can hear BETTER than someone else. In fact my wife claims I can't hear her most of the time (hee hee
)Anyhow, music is my first passion, which is why I needed to get the quieter Racing Beat dual tip exhaust, lest I lose my hearing ability forever
BTW, I did write "my butt" dyno, not kento1's
Last edited by SleepR1; 12-21-02 at 04:47 PM.
12-21-02 | 04:50 PM
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Another "AMEN" from the backrow
Gotta love the artfully crafted Racing Beat Dual Tips, especially that angled cut openings, very stock-looking...I'm overjoyed
Gotta love the artfully crafted Racing Beat Dual Tips, especially that angled cut openings, very stock-looking...I'm overjoyed
Originally posted by Goober
<SNIP> Just glad the car doesnt have a big old cannon on the back of it now...
<SNIP> Just glad the car doesnt have a big old cannon on the back of it now...
12-22-02 | 02:27 PM
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hey guys, i am trying to install my racing beat exhaust but i am missing the stock bracket that is used for the third attachment point of the exhaust....does anybody have the part number and where i can buy it? somebody mentioned they had to order it from the dealer but i would like to avoid my dealers at all cost. thanks for any help.
anthony
anthony
12-22-02 | 07:37 PM
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I had the Trust Sport Catback for 5 years. The noise level and 5-inch tip got played out after 3 years of owning it (damned Honda ricer boys 
) With a high-flow cat, EVERYONE knew when I was rounding the bend...nothing stealth about the Trust to be sure!
FWIW, the new RB Dual tip still gets loud when I get into the gas hard. I think it's because of my high-flow cat being less restrictive than the stock cat, and thus a much higher noise level...
) With a high-flow cat, EVERYONE knew when I was rounding the bend...nothing stealth about the Trust to be sure!FWIW, the new RB Dual tip still gets loud when I get into the gas hard. I think it's because of my high-flow cat being less restrictive than the stock cat, and thus a much higher noise level...
Originally posted by WanKeL FD RX-7
by personal opinion, i love the sound of the Trust catback.. it's very loud, and sounds like a monster
Max
by personal opinion, i love the sound of the Trust catback.. it's very loud, and sounds like a monster
Max
12-24-02 | 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by silver0ckt
hey guys, i am trying to install my racing beat exhaust but i am missing the stock bracket that is used for the third attachment point of the exhaust....does anybody have the part number and where i can buy it? somebody mentioned they had to order it from the dealer but i would like to avoid my dealers at all cost. thanks for any help.
anthony
hey guys, i am trying to install my racing beat exhaust but i am missing the stock bracket that is used for the third attachment point of the exhaust....does anybody have the part number and where i can buy it? somebody mentioned they had to order it from the dealer but i would like to avoid my dealers at all cost. thanks for any help.
anthony
N3A1-40-290A Cost me $9.90 from the dealer... Have a Merry Christmas everyone!!!
05-01-11 | 05:31 PM
#64
(rather then start a new thread)
Can someone do me a huge favor and snap a picture of this bracket installed on your RB muffler??
"5. Attach the muffler canister to the chassis-mounted retaining strap using the “short” bolts supplied."
The Tanabe CB installed right now is just hung, and I was at a total lost on how the RB one was installed. haha
Can someone do me a huge favor and snap a picture of this bracket installed on your RB muffler??
"5. Attach the muffler canister to the chassis-mounted retaining strap using the “short” bolts supplied."
The Tanabe CB installed right now is just hung, and I was at a total lost on how the RB one was installed. haha
05-01-11 | 08:37 PM
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