Hearing lots of rumors about where to put jacks and jack stands
#1
Hearing lots of rumors about where to put jacks and jack stands
Ok, So the thing is, I seem to hear a lot of different things about where to place jacks and jack stands.
Where should they really be put? And can someone put pictures of where they are really placed?
Where should they really be put? And can someone put pictures of where they are really placed?
#4
I have asked this same question and have gotten the same answer. I don't like having the car rest on the pinch welds however. One problem is the that the profile of the jack stands is a lot different than the pinch welds. Are there any other points that folks use for the front of the car and what are the pros and cons?
This last time, I ended up using two jack stands under the subframe. Seemed to work out fine but...
Also, for the rear, do you use the diff to jack it up? I've done it, but am a little nervous about putting that much pressure on the diff.
If you want to jack up both front and rear, how do you guys go about it? I can't get my jack under the subframe unless I raise the front first a little by either driving it onto a couple of 2x4's or jacking from the side enough to slip something under a wheel. Once the front is raised, I can't get my jack under the diff from the back of the car.
I could sure use an idiots guide to jacking the FD, complete with pictures. I'm not terribly bright in case you haven't guessed already.
This last time, I ended up using two jack stands under the subframe. Seemed to work out fine but...
Also, for the rear, do you use the diff to jack it up? I've done it, but am a little nervous about putting that much pressure on the diff.
If you want to jack up both front and rear, how do you guys go about it? I can't get my jack under the subframe unless I raise the front first a little by either driving it onto a couple of 2x4's or jacking from the side enough to slip something under a wheel. Once the front is raised, I can't get my jack under the diff from the back of the car.
I could sure use an idiots guide to jacking the FD, complete with pictures. I'm not terribly bright in case you haven't guessed already.
#5
I reinforced the full length of my pinch rails by putting a 3/8 thick metal piece on each side of each rail .Bolted like a sandwich ,the pinch rail in the center with countersink allen bolts . I can jack anywhere and put jack stands where ever I want . I did this 12 years ago ,Life is simple .
#6
I've never seen a pair of ramps that fit under the car.....? I have some low-profile ones that are STILL about 3 inches too tall for the car to clear.
Trending Topics
#9
I reinforced the full length of my pinch rails by putting a 3/8 thick metal piece on each side of each rail .Bolted like a sandwich ,the pinch rail in the center with countersink allen bolts . I can jack anywhere and put jack stands where ever I want . I did this 12 years ago ,Life is simple .
#10
Also, I've made some simple wheel jacks from 2X8's for when I need the car raised but don't need to remove the wheels. In this pic the rear is as you see it, but the front is on stands so I can do my engine pull.
Last edited by sbnrx7; 04-15-08 at 11:14 PM.
#11
The FSM specifies to use the diff when raising the car from the rear. So you're ok in doing it that way. Using a rubber pad on the jack is always a good idea though.
Also, I've made some simple wheel jacks for when I need the car raised but don't need to remove the wheels. In this pic the rear is as you see it but the front is on stands so I can do my engine pull.
Also, I've made some simple wheel jacks for when I need the car raised but don't need to remove the wheels. In this pic the rear is as you see it but the front is on stands so I can do my engine pull.
#12
Dang, you beat me to it while editing. Yeah, they are 2X8's. First I raise the rear by the diff and lower the car onto the stands in the pic. Then I move the jack behind each front wheel next to the body weld and jack them up one side at a time and set the fronts on addition wooden stands(I've made four of them). It puts a little twist on the car but the suspension compensates, as it should, and causes no harm. If I need the front higher than that, I then move my jack under the subframe an raise as required.
#13
When I jack up/stand my car I put a 1 ft 2X4 right behind the pinch rail and rest it/jack it from there. Right behind the front wheels or right in front of the rears. It spreads the load along a large section, which is reinforced by the rails while preserving the rails.
#16
Uh, you don't have frame rails. This is a unibody car...no frame. As discussed earlier, it has pinch welds that MAZDA recommends as proper strong points. But no frame rails. Learn it.
#17
This is what I use - I built my own out of 2x6s and 2x4s. Once up on the ramps I lift with a floor jack at the subframe and put jack stands under the suspension pickup points. Move the ramps out of the way (they're long), replace them when time to bring the car back down.
#18
#19
xD oh god... stop arguing xD
anyway, ive always used the pinch welds, its what Mazda suggests and ive never had an issue with it... they havent bent or been deformed... so i dunno
anyway, ive always used the pinch welds, its what Mazda suggests and ive never had an issue with it... they havent bent or been deformed... so i dunno
#21
What Sgtblue means is there aren't "frame rails" on unibody cars like there are on trucks, that's the point of calling it a unibody. It has reinforced areas under the rocker panels where you put the jack. Other than those it's all floor pan except for maybe a cross member or two.
#22
What Sgtblue means is there aren't "frame rails" on unibody cars like there are on trucks, that's the point of calling it a unibody. It has reinforced areas under the rocker panels where you put the jack. Other than those it's all floor pan except for maybe a cross member or two.
#23
I reinforced the full length of my pinch rails by putting a 3/8 thick metal piece on each side of each rail .Bolted like a sandwich ,the pinch rail in the center with countersink allen bolts . I can jack anywhere and put jack stands where ever I want . I did this 12 years ago ,Life is simple .
My pinch rails are all dented and deformed every time I use the jack! >.<
#25
I reinforced the full length of my pinch rails by putting a 3/8 thick metal piece on each side of each rail .Bolted like a sandwich ,the pinch rail in the center with countersink allen bolts . I can jack anywhere and put jack stands where ever I want . I did this 12 years ago ,Life is simple .
The only complication is that the OE jack won't fit any more. I'll have to think of a way to accomodate that.
Dave
Last edited by DaveW; 04-17-08 at 12:38 PM.