Is the Kakimoto as loud as the Apexi and HKS titanium ones? I hope its not. I would want a good flowing exhaust that is not so loud.

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ive heard a Kakimoto exhaust system on a WRX with no cats, and it was not loud at all. it sounded awesome. but that was a WRX. never heard it on an RX-7. im assuming that it will be as loud as an Apex N1 single.

 

To slow don't get HKS ti, mostly SS and a waste of $. Get either kakimoto full ti, ARC full ti, JIC full ti, or Ganador full ti. Sickest exhausts around, period.

Twinturboteddy you're a ******* retard. If you think ti exhausts are lame and N1 duals are the **** then you don't know **** about exhausts. You're just jumping on the bandwagon of name brand products cause you don't know dick about anything else and you can't think for yourself. You probably have like 80 stickers on your car and have lighted valve stem caps. Go get some originality bitch.

Seriously though, N1 duals reign supreme???WTF

 

Full ti exhausts are fine. I am the biggest anti-name brand on stuff dood. I'm just tired of hearing about how the HKS CF Ti has a (titanium tip), and other lame marketing tidbits.

I've tried a lot of different things, mainly because i've owned 2 FD's.

So out of experience with racing beat duals, m2 cat-back's, HKS, and a'pexi n1 dual, i was most happy with the N1 Dual.

I'm no exhaust freak, there are a lot of other things to focus on.


I removed all my stickers already .

 

You know you should learn to respect or atleast accept other peoples opinions before you mouth off like that. TwinTurboTeddy has been around on this forum for a pretty long time and mostly gives useful advices on products he knows about. I know personally he's had quite a few exhausts and from his experieces likes the N1 duals best because it gave him the most HP, and nicest tone. TTT personally help me get my HKS TI exhaust and I think its great, although TTT Thinks its too big and grenerally doesn't like it. But I thats his decision based on seeing and testing the product. And if you havent seen teddy's car and think its all riced out, you must be a newbie screaming for attention. He's got one of the cleanest CYM around, so I'd like to see what you've got.

 

The HKS TI has a full titanium canister...not just the tip.

 

TTT, my bad. We actually have more in common than not. I don't like the hks ti or cf/ti either, and a lot of their marketing is to people who don't know better. Thought you were calling all ti exhausts lame. Too expensive sure, but lame, never.

 

The performace aspect of the HKS Racing Ti is the piping size not really that it is a Ti exhaust (muffler only). The reason why tuners use it in Japan is simple...It's big as hell and it is well made.

HKS does not market it to people who are idiots on purpose...notice how it is only for the high end cars. It is unfourtunate that lots of kids automatically think Ti is "so cool."

The HKS Ti is not for everyone....it is a track oriented exhaust and not recommended for street cars in the US. I'm a big HKS fan but I would never put that thing on my car...why....it's too friggin loud. I'm happy with 3" all the way out for a street car.

 

I have HKS Racing Ti. It's very well made, has a full Ti canister and weighs like 1/3 less than stock exhaust. The difference in canister weight is apparent when you pick both of them up. And it makes the FD sounds like a muscle car. Are you sure that Kakimoto etc. has full Ti exhaust ? They must've cost like 3-4 times as HKS since Ti is like 3-4 times as expensive as SS. I don't think it's worth the money. In HKS case, an MP and catback alone will cost $900 compare to HKS' $1100 so it's a pretty good deal IMO.

 

Actually I am pretty sure the Kakimoto Ti is cheaper than the HKS..

 

Is the Kakimoto just a cat back exhaust? or is it down pipe back like the HKS Ti Racing

 

I like It:





With PLUG:



Later, Jeff

 

Does anyone know how the Kakimoto sounds on an RX-7?

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whoa that SARD exhaust sounds SWEET, how much does it run?

gordon has a sweet card and knows his stuff right? or thats what i thoguht i was told....

anyway where can i get more info on this exhaust?

thanks

 

hey mind doesnt have HKS on it? It say JASMA racing only purpose i think?

 

One with just a Titanium can (same as HKS but $300 less)and another that is full titanium pipes also. I'm not sure if it comes with the mid pipe because of the Japanese to English translation problem.

The Kakimoto sounds sweet also, wish I could compare them. (just an expression, heaven't heard either)

I had my mind set on the N1 duals before I saw the JIC 1/2 Titanium. It is the only exaust that I know of that increases mid range power (perfect for autos)which is more practical for street.

 

It doesn't make any sense to me to have a 4" DP back exaust if the DP is 3"? Furthermore, why wouldn't they make a Titanium DP? ...is it impossible to bend? I would definately buy a Ti' DP! What's up the dat?

 

Come on guys why are you comparing 3" cat back systems to a DP back 4" system(it includes a 4" stainless midpipe).

Most of these price comparisons don't make sence either especially if it is a cat back system.

That's like comparing apples to oranges.

 

The JIC 1/2 Ti' is cat back @ about $850
has a Ti' can like HKS but no MP.

JIC Titanium is all Ti' even pipes but since I couldn't say "mid Pipe" in Japanese I don't know if it comes with one (about $1150).

I hope I don't get in trouble for posting those prices, they should be retail/sugested.

But my question still stands: Can you actually get a benefit of 4" MP + CB (regardless of Ti' cause that is a wieght isssue) when the DP is only 3"?

Oh, and what is Sardo? ...never heard of that one.

 

YES!

i think the reason you are getting a little confused is because you are thinking the flow of gas as water. liquid and gas flow are totally different things.

for example, if you have a 3" hose flared out to 4", that extra inch in water flow will not do anything since the minimum is 3"s. so...a three inch hose connected to a four inch hose flowing continuous water will not flow any better than a full three inch hose.

however, gas is a little different. any increase in pipe diameter will increase flow, regardless of what the bottleneck is. think of it this way...after the 3" downpipe, if it is 4 inches, the gas has more room to move around and flow. if it is full three inches, it is a little more cramped, hence more resistance/backpressure.

hope that made sense.

 

the GT1.OZ (Stainless or Ti) is a cat-back unit.

 

sardo is SARD http://www.sard.co.jp/index1.html
that's the Brand of exhaust that gmonson got, the Arouse MIG R. Not much info on the site though.

David

 

yeah that SARD sounds really sweet, restrictive at LOW RPMS, and open 4" wide at higher rpms(higer boost) so you keep low end power and get good high end....

gordan m. said KD ordered it from japan, AND its only $550, damn i am really interested in that exhaust system