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Old 03-14-09 | 08:16 PM
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94 oct with ethanol. Get used to the ethanol folks


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Old 03-14-09 | 09:50 PM
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Most integrated oil companies use additives in gasoline that clean the engine like fuel injector cleaner does...

Chevron Techron
Texaco System 3
BP Invigorate

Chevron has one of the oldest and best formulas...

[Merritt Wikle, Auto Enthusiast & Chevron Lubricants Employee - 2000/10/20] The formulations of all manufacturers aftermarket products is very proprietary. So it is unlikely anyone knows Chevron or BG's formulations. Chevron sometimes tests/analyzes selected products a part of competitive analysis. I do know BG44K is a fine product. Further, Techron Concentrate is not just "4% active ingredient", with "filler" for the balance. [BTW filler in gas additives is typically some type of solvent.]

The active ingredient in Techron Concentrate is engineered and manufactured by Chevron. Though we do contract the actual bottling of the "juice" to others; it is Chevron that originally invented, made, and patented PEA (polyetheramine) fuel additive technology in the 80's.

In short, Techron Concentrate is the "original", and still unbeatable fuel system treatment.

In fact, the automakers use Chevron gasoline with Techron for EPA testing, even though we do not market gasolines in the Midwest (they haul from Louisville KY).

While I cannot comment on any specific Chevron Chemical customers I might know of (I'm not in Chevron Chemical group), Chevron Oronite Chemical Division sells very good PEA fuel system additives (not Techron Concentrate, though) to many well-known customers both as aftermarket chemicals, and for use in bulk gasolines. Typically these customers package and market these chemicals, or use them in bulk gasoline.
Old 03-14-09 | 10:03 PM
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I've filled up my tank once w/ v-power w/ nitrogen so i really cant say how its going to affect the car... hopefully nothing crazy.
Old 03-14-09 | 11:22 PM
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My tank is about half full of Nitrogen too and I didn't fill up with Shell gas. My tank is half empty and Nitrogen is the most abundant component of air (78%). Now if they put some oxygen in there we might have something .
Old 03-15-09 | 09:31 AM
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Wait so its ok?

If so, im putting 20 bucks of v-power today lol
Old 03-15-09 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 1QWIK7
Wait so its ok?

If so, im putting 20 bucks of v-power today lol
As said above, all of the really good gasolines (and Shell is among the best, being in the "Top-Tier" listing) use propietary detergent additives. All the Shell info is saying is that they believe they now have an improved detergent formula.

So, IMO, yes, it's OK. If "V-Power" continues to perform like it has in the past for me (see my previous posts), I'll sure continue to use it.

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Old 03-16-09 | 12:16 AM
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haha... nitrogen, that's a new one... I bet you what ever detergent/additive they use already has nitrogen in it, and now they are marketing it as "new gunk fighting"
I hate the gas situation. I'm supposed to go for a tune with Kan, but I realized that I might want to tune here to make sure 91 will be ok, so I can make to to calgary to get tuned again... the middle provinces suck. maybe i'll drive real slow..
Now if only there is a mohawk/chevron/husky between saskatoon and calgary..
Old 03-16-09 | 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RLaoFD
I've filled up my tank once w/ v-power w/ nitrogen so i really cant say how its going to affect the car... hopefully nothing crazy.
Ok... maybe I'm just dense here, but I was under the impression that Nitrogen is a gas. A gas that is heavier than air. As such, the stations putting Nitrogen in their storage tanks is simply a way to displace air in the storage tanks as they are drained of fuel (therefore keeping the gas from aging between having the tanks filled up). Unless the pumps inside of the storage tanks are exposed to the gas than you won't actually be getting nitrogen in your car's tank, therefore there really shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Correct?
Old 03-16-09 | 01:59 AM
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well ill ask here too. we got access to 3 types of gas around here

95 octane
98 octane
104 octane shell V-power

What is best for rotary? im thinking of V-power
Old 03-16-09 | 02:24 AM
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Higher fuel ratings are always better for rotaries.

I'm not sure about Scandinavian countries, though I know that the UK runs on a different fuel rating scale than the US (98 (UK)RON = 94 (US)Octane, 95 (UK)RON = 91 (US)Octane, etc) so I'm willing to bet that the extremely high fuel ratings you are seeing fall under a similar equation JasoX.
Old 03-16-09 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fendamonky
Ok... maybe I'm just dense here, but I was under the impression that Nitrogen is a gas. A gas that is heavier than air. As such, the stations putting Nitrogen in their storage tanks is simply a way to displace air in the storage tanks as they are drained of fuel (therefore keeping the gas from aging between having the tanks filled up). Unless the pumps inside of the storage tanks are exposed to the gas than you won't actually be getting nitrogen in your car's tank, therefore there really shouldn't be anything to worry about.

Correct?
Shell is converting to a new nitrogen-based detergent formula. It has nothing to do with nitrogen in its gaseous state.

Dave
Old 03-16-09 | 05:40 PM
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Ah... I'll take the dense option then =P
Old 03-17-09 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Shell is converting to a new nitrogen-based detergent formula. It has nothing to do with nitrogen in its gaseous state.

Dave
to elaborate, they are referring to nitrogen in a compound like ammonia, or amino acids, and such. This one just happens to have nitrogen in the detergent, not really a big deal as most things on this planet have nitrogen. They aren't referring to N2 gas.
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