3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Fuel Pump Resistor

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-06-10 | 08:12 AM
  #1  
duval7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
Fuel Pump Resistor

I am at work and don't have my FSM to referance so bear with me. First the little box next to the ingitor, that is the fuel pump resistor right? Next, if i am running a Supra pump with an aftermarket FPR do i need that? I recently had an engine fire and it took out that connector and I haven't been able to locate one. I also run a Power FC if that helps.
Old 05-07-10 | 07:40 AM
  #2  
duval7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
Anyone?
Old 05-07-10 | 07:52 AM
  #3  
arghx's Avatar
rotorhead
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 16,188
Likes: 438
From: cold
you don't need it and a lot of people bypass it in your situation
Old 05-07-10 | 04:15 PM
  #4  
duval7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
Thanks I was hoping that was the case. Is that kind of like an OEM Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump?
Old 05-07-10 | 04:30 PM
  #5  
cpnneeda's Avatar
RAWR!!!!!!!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
From: RR, NC
Originally Posted by duval7
Thanks I was hoping that was the case. Is that kind of like an OEM Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump?

It tries to be like a boost a pump, but fails miserably.
Old 05-07-10 | 05:56 PM
  #6  
arghx's Avatar
rotorhead
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 16,188
Likes: 438
From: cold
Is that kind of like an OEM Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump?
it's not a boost-a-pump. A boost-a-pump basically overdrives a fuel pump, sending more voltage to it than was really intended for it. The two-speed system cuts the fuel pump voltage below the normal battery volatge, reducing the amount of fuel circulating through the system when the engine is at lower loads. It's not about raising pump flow, as the pump max voltage can only be what the battery provides. Multi speed pump systems are for reducing pump wear, reducing pump noise, and reducing fuel evaporative emissions.

By driving the pump with less voltage it can last longer by the simple fact that the less you push a component the longer you can expect it to last. Electrical drain is also reduced. Some fuel pumps can be loud when driven at full voltage and typical consumers don't want to hear a fuel pump whine on their stock car. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, a multi-speed fuel pump reduces evaporative emissions. Evaporative emissions are fuel vapors (HC) that collect in the tank and charcoal canister. As fuel heats up it is more likely to vaporize. On a return fuel system the fuel travels from the tank through the engine bay (where it heats up) and back to the tank. The more fuel vapors produced, the more must be captured in the charcoal canister and metered back into the engine through the evaporative purge solenoid.

Multi-speed pumps are common on return fuel systems. The oldest style is the two speed, resistor type that is found on Rx-7's, 3000GT's, and other cars of that era. Newer cars (Subarus for example) may use a three speed duty type with an external fuel pump control module that receives commands from the ECU. Many newer cars like the Rx-8 may instead have a returnless fuel system. The pump is duty controlled and the fuel pressure regulator may be in the tank itself. By eliminating the fuel return line tank temperatures will be lower, resulting in less HC emissions. Less HC evaporative emissions means the government gets off the manufacturer's back and the engineers don't have to rely on as many expensive and unreliable emissions controls like precats.





The systems work fine on stock cars with stock fuel requirements. Now with all that being said, on these modified older cars I often recommend that people remove the resistor because maximizing pump flow at WOT trumps all the other issues. Removing the resistor allows you to run heavier gauge wire and it eliminates a possible failure point for the fuel system.
Attached Thumbnails Fuel Pump Resistor-fuelpump_control.png   Fuel Pump Resistor-fuelpump_control2.png  
The following users liked this post:
tomatoto (03-29-20)
Old 05-08-10 | 03:17 AM
  #7  
Narukas's Avatar
Full Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 124
Likes: 2
From: United Kingdom
It looks like that fuel pump resistor is not needed when doing fuel pump rewire upgrade.

I'm planning on using Bosch 044 pump and it's somewhat loud. I wonder if it would be possible to use two speed control in high current rewired line?
Old 05-08-10 | 09:52 AM
  #8  
arghx's Avatar
rotorhead
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 16,188
Likes: 438
From: cold
Originally Posted by Narukas
I'm planning on using Bosch 044 pump and it's somewhat loud. I wonder if it would be possible to use two speed control in high current rewired line?
Yes it's possible. A lot of FC owners have done this. It adds more wires and complexity.
Old 05-09-10 | 07:47 AM
  #9  
duval7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Tennessee
Thanks for the info that helps alot.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
07-01-23 04:40 PM
Rotospectre
New Member RX-7 Technical
3
03-28-18 03:33 PM
ChrisRX8PR
Single Turbo RX-7's
21
10-18-15 04:01 PM
befarrer
Microtech
3
08-22-15 05:52 PM



Quick Reply: Fuel Pump Resistor



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:23 AM.