WhiteRXseven

What are the Fastest times in the 1/4 mile
with a stock twinturbo sequential set up?
Regardless of mods. or turbo conditions.

I am curious because I want some target
ET's on my FD3S on my stock twins..


Thanks

Bacon

iTrader: (12)

11.1 was done by anthony a guy from nyc...18-19 psi
not shure if he broke into 10 yet or not

erniet ran 11's and change on them @ 16 psi

twstd rx

Yo Ryan,

I'm counting on you to get there too! You da man!


Andrew

WhiteRXseven

Hmmm

16-18 psi of boost with stock twins.
So many people have said that stock
twin turbos would melt and etc with
stock twins running over 14psi.

I guess they stand corrected.

So I assumming the FD3S with street port
with injectors and rails and all BPUS..

the_glass_man

iTrader: (2)

High 10's A Long Time Ago in a Galaxy Far, Far Away.
Stock Turbos, Stock Engine. Everyother mod.
But don't plan on getting that. Shoot for some high 11/low 12 timeslips.

jimlab

1996, to be exact. 10.98 @ 123 mph.

And non-sequential, by the way.

They won't melt, but they do put out increasingly more heat than the extra boost is worth, which greatly increases the chances of detonation. The run mentioned above was at 17 psi, but with 110 octane in the fuel cell.

ErnieT

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I ran 11.70 @ 119mph. all day on stock twins, non-sequential running 16lbs. People say the stock twins aren't good for anything over 15lbs. People that say that never have run that boost. Anthony ran 11.1 at 19lbs of boost on stock twins, so it can be done. Yes, you will likely blow your turbo's sooner, but so what, thats just an excuse to buy a single....lol
BTW, I ran between 16-17 lbs. for over 2 yrs on the drag strip with no ill effects.

Wade

iTrader: (1)

I thought he had different turbo cartridges?

Wade

jimlab

No, the word was that had "Trick 50" cartridges, but according to Kevin, no such modification took place, and I've never been able to find anyone else who had any idea what the hell "Trick 50" cartridges were supposed to be or where they could be found. I got that information second-hand through Trev, and Trev, bright as he was, sometimes had no idea what he was talking about. I did, however, witness the run in question on video tape, so there's no mistake there.

Wade

iTrader: (1)

I've always wondered about that, because I've considered some sort of upgraded twin setup. Guess I can mark that one off my list.

Do you think it is reasonable to say that his car was probably making similar power to Anthony's? Given that their runs were very close in time/mph and I believe Kevin's car was very lightened (the pictures I saw of the car suggested it had many "unnecssary" parts removed, like bumper reinforcement, his lights added, parking lights removed, no ac/ps, etc.) correct me if I'm wrong about that.

I guess what I'm getting at is I think others could scrape into the 10's with typical bolt on mods and stock engine/turbos. Just run 17+ psi, race gas, stlick, and strip the car down.

Wade

jimlab

Sure, someone else could get into the 10s with the same formula, there was no snake oil involved. However Kevin has a huge amount of drag racing experience, and although Anthony has come close, no one (to my knowledge) has made it into the 10s with stock engine and turbos since Kevin, and we're talking about almost six years now.

I think that eventually someone will, given enough time and effort, but most people have trouble getting deep into the 11s with twins and end up switching to a single and jumping right over that hurdle.

Johnny

Or by the time they get close...the stock turbos expire...and they upgrade

7-sins

Non seq is the way to go, Ernie is the man, and 10.9 is insane on stockers.

ErnieT

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You must have mis-read. I didn't go 10's on stock twins. Just consitant 11.7's.....which isn't too shabby considering I used drag radials and not my Mickey Thompson ET streets which would have shaved another .02 of my times. Put me at about a 11.5 or so.

Blade7

ernieT,

please let us know your secret formula for that kind of #.

please..

donnie

94"
m2 stage 3

T88Rx7

full exaust, fmic, computer, intake, boost controller,aic, pully kit, fuel pump, and fuel pressure regulator thats all i think

jimlab

No, what's insane is that the same car placed 9th in the SSGT1 class on its first (and only) entry in the 1996 One Lap of America, and 14th overall, with just a change of wheels and tires.

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/Histo...ntrant1996.htm
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/Histo.../Class0096.htm
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/History/1996/ovl_96.htm

Kevin Wyum handled the drag race, and Jeff Littrell drove the car on the road courses.

7-sins

na that was a combination of responses, 11.7 is damn good on stockers.

Wade

iTrader: (1)

Yeah. Though I wish more people were trying to maximize what they had. I'd like for more people to do it, enough so that we could say "a stock engine and turbo'd FD without nitrous can hit 10's if set up right" and it be accepted as common import racer knowledge.

IMO too many people want to take the easier route (single turbo) too quickly. It's cool to see someone do a lot with a car with less expense. I think a sharp person could hit twins in an FD with perhaps $5k in mods.

Bottom line, most people aren't crazy enough to try it, because for every guy who succeeds, there will be several who fail at their attempts. And failures can be costly.

I guess that's the reasoning behind getting a single, spend more money up front, but be much more sure to get the results you want, and hopefully spend less in the long run.

Wade

Wade

iTrader: (1)

No, what's insane is that during this event, Kevin only managed a 12.86 at 111 MPH in the 1/4... and 9.06 in a 1/10th mile drag.

Wasn't it you who said, "You're only as fast as your last time"?

Wade

jimlab

Yep. But the only car quicker on that day was the #8 Mosler Intruder with a 12.598. The next closest was the #4 Corvette ZR-1 with a 13.145, so despite the problems with the car and shortcomings of the track that Kevin described, he placed second in the drag race. A 911 Turbo ran a 13.47 and a Viper ran a 13.71, so that should tell you something...

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/Histo.../event1096.htm

Don't know what to tell you about the Lancaster results.

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/Histo.../event1596.htm

Flybye

I know a guy that ran a consistent 11.6 on the SEQUENTIAL setup, had the boost set at around 14psi, and was still running the stock injectors. He has a ported motor, but kept the stock twins.

I'm not into 1/4miling, but I'd like to see what times he would have been able to pull if he would have ported and polished his intake manifolds, exhaust manifold, thrown in some polished high flo or the BB twins, thrown in larger injectors and upped the boost.

efiniracing

What would you guys say that my best time will be w/ a trap speed of 116mph? So far I still can't into the 11's.