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Old 04-15-05 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EVLFD
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The factory bracket still fits without drilling.

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Old 04-15-05 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EVLFD
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The factory bracket still fits without drilling.

(yes, i have a FMIC)
Old 04-15-05 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
There's no way a plate is going on my car. I've owned an RX7 since 1994, and never put a front plate on one. I'll pay the fine.
Actually, there's someone on here that has one on their's, and they have a 99 nose, and it looks damn good. Like, it doesn't dominate the front of the car, or look cheap. I was surprised.
I'll try to think who it is.
Old 04-15-05 | 01:57 PM
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Usually accidents send things forward, so the plate isn't going anywhere but right where it is. lol einstein
Have you ever been in an accident? There isn't just one direction of force when you get into one. There are multiple forces. The one accident that I was in, sent a flashlight to my face from the passenger-side floorboard. I still can't figure out how it happened, but it did.


Explain to me what would happen if you got rear-ended and your plate was in the window. Think it will go forward with your car?
Old 04-15-05 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
Have you ever been in an accident? There isn't just one direction of force when you get into one. There are multiple forces. The one accident that I was in, sent a flashlight to my face from the passenger-side floorboard. I still can't figure out how it happened, but it did.


Explain to me what would happen if you got rear-ended and your plate was in the window. Think it will go forward with your car?
Old 04-15-05 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
Have you ever been in an accident? There isn't just one direction of force when you get into one. There are multiple forces. The one accident that I was in, sent a flashlight to my face from the passenger-side floorboard. I still can't figure out how it happened, but it did.


Explain to me what would happen if you got rear-ended and your plate was in the window. Think it will go forward with your car?
yes i have been in an accident, everything flew towards the front window. Including my backpack with 30lbs of books! That woulda hurt, fortunately it didn't hit me.

I'm sure no one would be stupid enough to put the license plate in front of them in the windshield. It would probly be wedged between the window and the dash on the passenger side. I'd say it's unlikely for it to get anywhere near the driver, passenger? maybe. But anything can happen.
Old 04-15-05 | 03:30 PM
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Pretty cool alternative... I like that bracket that holds the plate on that flips. Where did you get it?... Can you post pics of the mechanism behind the plate?

PS. Love the weather you're having. I wish I could go outside now with sunglasses and shorts and touch my seven.... I'm jealous! Weather here is still between 40 and 50.
Old 04-15-05 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by neofreak
The factory bracket still fits without drilling.

(yes, i have a FMIC)
really? what would the bracket be bolted to? got any pics of your setup?
Old 04-15-05 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RX7UP
Pretty cool alternative... I like that bracket that holds the plate on that flips. Where did you get it?... Can you post pics of the mechanism behind the plate?

PS. Love the weather you're having. I wish I could go outside now with sunglasses and shorts and touch my seven.... I'm jealous! Weather here is still between 40 and 50.
i bought it at Bee Racing in Yokohama Japan two summers ago. i don't know where you can buy them in the states. its prety much just a hinge system and one of the hinges has a spring built into it.
Old 04-15-05 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EVLFD
really? what would the bracket be bolted to? got any pics of your setup?
Don't have pics but, IIRC, the OEM plate bracket uses two 10mm bolts that do double duty holding on the front bumper cover. If you still have a bumper cover, you probably still have those bolts.

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Old 04-15-05 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Calandrella
Nice avatar Sgt.
Thanks, I stole it. But I don't think it was anyone from this forum.

You in the business?

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Old 04-15-05 | 06:04 PM
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Thanks, I stole it. But I don't think it was anyone from this forum.

You in the business?

Old 04-15-05 | 07:44 PM
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i dont have a front plate on my fc or my fd ive only had my fd for about 4 months and i have had no problems ive had my fc for about 4 1/2 years and every once in awhile i'll get pulled over for it but they just tell me to put it on and send on my way. But for the Washington guys ODDITYSMURF got pulled over on whidby island for no front plate and they said that they where going to start enforcing that law more, But it was a stater and usualy the ones on whidby island are a bit more pissy then the others. I also used to have my licence plate in my front window but its more noticable with it there then not on at all
Old 04-15-05 | 10:05 PM
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im considering on getting one, looks neat
Old 04-16-05 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NINjaX7
you live in bothell? i live like 2 minutes from bothell, i've never seen an FD in that area. so are we allowed to take ours off in our area? i think i just might do it, because mine is hanging off mesh and flips back when moving forward
washington state requires both a front and rear plate. the front plate is butt ugly and i believe that they affect performance adversely. i carry mine behind the drivers seat if i should get stopped for not having it mounted - "yes officer the new license plate bracket has been ordered because old one fell off"!

check out how many cars mostly sports cars and suvs that dont run a front plate. there are a lot.

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^^true however most of them get away with it if they have a "fancy" sports car or suv..

there are 2 vipers in my town that ride around with no front plate and I BET they never got pulled over for that..
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Originally Posted by ulost2my7
^^true however most of them get away with it if they have a "fancy" sports car or suv..

there are 2 vipers in my town that ride around with no front plate and I BET they never got pulled over for that..
Rarely do people get pulled over for just not having a front plate. Usually it's a ticket police tack onto something else (i.e. speeding, C&I, running a stop light, etc). If you are young (under 21), driving a sports car, and a front plate is required in your state; sorry but you are just asking to be hassled if you don't put a plate on the car.
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Rarely do people get pulled over for just not having a front plate.
Not necessarily so. State Patrol/State Police will often enforce this as a "primary violation". After all, traffic enforcement is probably 95% of their work load...and they're very good at it. Additionally, on major interstates violations like this are often used for drug interdiction. They also kick up alot of stolen cars, ficticious plates, suspending drivers (who don't typically insure they're cars) and other violations. Some may not like it, but that, unfortunately, is the world we live in these days.
Originally Posted by Mahjik
If you are young (under 21), driving a sports car, and a front plate is required in your state; sorry but you are just asking to be hassled if you don't put a plate on the car.
I think this is partly true. But remember the phrase from college statistics "Correlation is not [necessarily] causation"? I doubt that a car is often stopped solely due to the age of the driver. More often, it's the driving habits that gain the Cop's attention. Agressive driving, quick lane changes, going WOT from a light, etc., even if the Cop doesn't get a clock or a radar track, IMO is more often the reason. And then if you don't have a front plate, don't expect them to give you a break. Just my .02.

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Old 04-16-05 | 10:16 PM
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im considering on getting one, looks neat
Thanks Rob.

Here some positive feed back for your rep!

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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
Not necessarily so. State Patrol/State Police will often enforce this as a "primary violation". After all, traffic enforcement is probably 95% of their work load...and they're very good at it.
Well, I would say that the State/Highway patrol in your area are pretty bored then. I have yet to be pulled over for just a missing front plate in the 7+ years I've had my FD (and the other cars I've owned since).

I have recieved one ticket for a lack of a front plate, but that was due to getting a parking ticket (expired meter) and the front plate was just tacked on.

Originally Posted by Sgtblue
Additionally, on major interstates violations like this are often used for drug interdiction. They also kick up alot of stolen cars, ficticious plates, suspending drivers (who don't typically insure they're cars) and other violations. Some may not like it, but that, unfortunately, is the world we live in these days.
Yes, if they have cause for another purpose, the police ALWAYS find a reason to stop someone (rolling stop, 4 mph over the speed limit, etc). The front plate is just another excuse in this case, but it's not the sole reason for the stopping. It just another "way in" to investigate another possible crime or infraction.

However, if someone is hiding or avoiding something and is running without a front plate in a state that requires one; they deserve to be pulled over.

Originally Posted by Sgtblue
I think this is partly true.
Please, I've owned sports cars since I was 19 (and that's been a while) as well as driving my fathers sports car before I owned my own. My father used to be a full time officer back in PA; here he was in the reserves. I used to use his radio to listen to the various patrol cars running my plates behind me attempting to find a reason to pull me over. Hell, I got a ticket one night when I was around 22 for doing 63 in a 60 (which was only because the state patrol was riding my bumper).

Half of my friends from high school are in law enforcement. I listen to them talk about this kind of stuff all the time. I know you are in law enforcement, but it's not Disney Land everywhere.
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but it's not the sole reason for the stopping. It just another "way in" to investigate another possible crime or infraction.
yeah and no...sometimes they use the no front license plate as an extra if the primary reason for the pull over was something more bigger like speeding HOWEVER in some cities, they use these little violations as "money makers" for their districts as you want to call them for that city..

like where i work, there is a triangular block like 1 block before my actual job and there is a blind hidden spot cops hang out to catch speeders..well they also use that spot to catch people not wearing seatbelts AND people with no front plates, also with speeding and other misc..

i know this cause my boss got pulled over for the no front plate but got that ticket passed cause he had that badge thing and plus he was from PA and i guess they dont care about front plates over there..(even though he was driving in NJ and that shouldnt matter)
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Originally Posted by ulost2my7
yeah and no...sometimes they use the no front license plate as an extra if the primary reason for the pull over was something more bigger like speeding
Yes and that's why we read all the messages in the thread:

Originally Posted by Mahjik
Usually it's a ticket police tack onto something else (i.e. speeding, C&I, running a stop light, etc).
Old 04-17-05 | 12:58 AM
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A bit of ownage by Mahjik...

I would never have a front plate on an FD.
I hate the 99JDM nose...that plate holder is obnoxious.
Removing the front plate greatly reduces your radar cross-section...somewhere down to 800 foot detection with the headlights stowed. (Cops still use radar where I live)
I would consider getting the 99JDM knockoff bumper without the plate space.
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Yes, if they have cause for another purpose, the police ALWAYS find a reason to stop someone (rolling stop, 4 mph over the speed limit, etc). The front plate is just another excuse in this case, but it's not the sole reason for the stopping. It just another "way in" to investigate another possible crime or infraction. However, if someone is hiding or avoiding something and is running without a front plate in a state that requires one; they deserve to be pulled over.
So...do where do we disagree?

Originally Posted by Mahjik
I know you are in law enforcement, but it's not Disney Land everywhere.
Mmmm. Who'd have thought that a thread about front plates would get everyone so emotional. Not sure where it needed to get insulting though.
If your interested, I could PM you with a brief history of my LE experiences. I guarrantee it's not been DisneyLand.

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