Currently have a Supra, thinking about RX-7
12-11-02, 06:34 PM
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I also vote to keep the supra...the 7 is a nice toy but I don't think I would ever want it to be my daily driver...seems like there are always issues to be dealt with when you have a 7...Keep the Supra kuz it's killer mobile and then get the 7 to tinker with...
12-11-02, 07:20 PM
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get an FD with a blown motor and then spend like 4 grand for a new motor and change all the hoses. With the $$$ left get yourself a 91+ legend which should be very comfy for a daily driver.
12-11-02, 07:23 PM
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oh yeah and your car is an automatic, which sux for a sports car. Also, I chose the Rx7 because when you see one you know it's turboed but with the supra, majority of them are either nonturbo or automatic, which decreases the wow factor when people see one. Also, the styling is just...too close to be an eclipse IMO. And every time I see a supra, for some reason it reminds me of ninja turtles...??
12-11-02, 11:14 PM
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I think the FD interior looks nice. What don't you like about it ? And ive never heard of it squeaking before, is this a common problem? Ive got 157k miles on mine, no squeeks....
I think the FD interior looks nice. What don't you like about it ? And ive never heard of it squeaking before, is this a common problem? Ive got 157k miles on mine, no squeeks....
93s have painted plastic panels, and after a few years they begin to soften and peel/scratch. Gets really nasty.94s and 95s are a bit better, though as that the plastic is slightly different. Ever taken the interior apart? I always knew Mazda was obsessive about keeping weight down, but the plastic is so thin that it's pathetic. Other then that (and the annoying exhaust drone), I've liked mine enough to throw around 20K at it.
12-11-02, 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by yzf-r1
depends on what you want the car for
if you want to blow innocent victims off the highway for the ego rush, like street racing in general, and enjoy a more comfy GT cruiser, the Supra is tough to beat
if you want a raw, light weight, and nimble car that begs to be flogged on a road course and will still win more then a fair share of impromptu street battles, the 7 is it
if you want a reliable 7, strip of all the emissions crap off, convert to single turbo, get a rebuilt and ported engine with all the reliability upgrades (especially the teflon cooling seals), a huge radiator and IC, big fuel injectors and good fuel management, and never run more than 17 psi boost....with all that you should be fine
you can't half *** a 7....if you do, you'll get burned, and go away cursing the car as unreliable
or just do what Jim Swantko is doing: put a huge *** single on your Supra and shoot for 700+ horsepower, then find some wide open freeway and hide your license
it's a free country, live it up
depends on what you want the car for
if you want to blow innocent victims off the highway for the ego rush, like street racing in general, and enjoy a more comfy GT cruiser, the Supra is tough to beat
if you want a raw, light weight, and nimble car that begs to be flogged on a road course and will still win more then a fair share of impromptu street battles, the 7 is it
if you want a reliable 7, strip of all the emissions crap off, convert to single turbo, get a rebuilt and ported engine with all the reliability upgrades (especially the teflon cooling seals), a huge radiator and IC, big fuel injectors and good fuel management, and never run more than 17 psi boost....with all that you should be fine
you can't half *** a 7....if you do, you'll get burned, and go away cursing the car as unreliable
or just do what Jim Swantko is doing: put a huge *** single on your Supra and shoot for 700+ horsepower, then find some wide open freeway and hide your license
it's a free country, live it up
I'd love to see you own a single turbo 7 Mark. I use to think that a single turbo with all the goodies would make it a reliable super-car too.... it did not.
12-12-02, 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by DRAG0NEER
get an FD with a blown motor and then spend like 4 grand for a new motor and change all the hoses. With the $$$ left get yourself a 91+ legend which should be very comfy for a daily driver.
get an FD with a blown motor and then spend like 4 grand for a new motor and change all the hoses. With the $$$ left get yourself a 91+ legend which should be very comfy for a daily driver.
(cept i bought my FD with 16k miles). I love my 1992 legend and i'm so glad i have it for a daily driver specially in the winter, I don't feel guilty about driving the FD anymore.
12-12-02, 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by dclin
Looks great, I don't have any problems with looks. I said the interior is cheap, as in low quality. You must be one of the lucky ones. Every FD I've been in squeaks like a mouse in heat. 93s have painted plastic panels, and after a few years they begin to soften and peel/scratch. Gets really nasty.
94s and 95s are a bit better, though as that the plastic is slightly different. Ever taken the interior apart? I always knew Mazda was obsessive about keeping weight down, but the plastic is so thin that it's pathetic. Other then that (and the annoying exhaust drone), I've liked mine enough to throw around 20K at it.
Looks great, I don't have any problems with looks. I said the interior is cheap, as in low quality. You must be one of the lucky ones. Every FD I've been in squeaks like a mouse in heat.
93s have painted plastic panels, and after a few years they begin to soften and peel/scratch. Gets really nasty.94s and 95s are a bit better, though as that the plastic is slightly different. Ever taken the interior apart? I always knew Mazda was obsessive about keeping weight down, but the plastic is so thin that it's pathetic. Other then that (and the annoying exhaust drone), I've liked mine enough to throw around 20K at it.
i still like fd interior more than supra's though
12-12-02, 06:37 PM
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That's funny... I did "strip of all the emissions crap off, convert to single turbo, get a rebuilt and ported engine with all the reliability upgrades (especially the teflon cooling seals), a huge radiator and IC, big fuel injectors and good fuel management, and never run more than 17 psi boost" and it still wasn't as reliable as it should be.
time to stop being so evasive and put your cards on the table, Jim....what exactly happened with your 7 to make you say that?
you have to admit the engine management PF used in your car was not the greatest, a PFC or Haltech would no doubt have helped
time to stop being so evasive and put your cards on the table, Jim....what exactly happened with your 7 to make you say that?
you have to admit the engine management PF used in your car was not the greatest, a PFC or Haltech would no doubt have helped
12-12-02, 08:32 PM
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woah. i didn't expect this kind of response. well, i think i'll stick with my supra for now even though I love rx7 for being lightweight with sweet handling just because Supra can be reliable daily driver with ~450hp. I will go with 7 someday though when I afford to keep two cars. Being in college and living in the dorm makes it very though to keep two cars, so I think rx7 is not a good choice for now. Thanx for the response people you guys are very helpful.
you guys are very helpful.
12-12-02, 09:05 PM
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Ive daily driven my FD for a year and a half now, Im at 76xxx miles on the original engine and turbos. I have had no problems with my car, all I did reliability wise was teh Vacuum line job, AST and Downpipe. Other then that I have an apexi intake, gauges lowering springs, strut bar, my two hands taking care of her.
I change my oil every 1500-2000 miles, NON synthetic Castrol GTX. I WOT it almost every time I take it out at least once. Before I turn the engine off, I drive around witht he hood popped open for a good 5 min to get it cooled off in there, and then leave the hood open as often as possible for as long as possible after I shut her down. I let her idle for a min or two when I start her up, and never boost it till 10 min after its warmed up.
Im 17 years old and Im paying for the car, as well as doing every bit of work on it myself.
The only problem I have ever had was when I had to slam on the brakes because an SUV couldnt see me because the car is lowered, its Black, my headlights are so weak, and it was pitch black outside. When I did slam on my brakes I had to swirve as well, and because I daily drive my FD , It was during the winter and I hit a patch of ice on the side of the road, and slid off and clipped a small tree, scratching up my front bumper, and denting my fender. The SUV went on driving as happy as ever so yes, I got raped in the situation. So Id like to raise that issue as well, being that the Seven is more nimble and lighter, more focus must be spent on driving and it is more difficult to control in certain situations.
How do I afford my car insurance and gas? well simple, Ive been saving money and working my *** off for 3 years dedicating all money to saving for My seven because I am that interested and infatuated with the seven and the rotary engine. MY parents paid for the car, but they only reason they did it, was because they told me they had to because if I was to miss a payment to a bank it would be bad so they insisted on letting me pay them back instead.
whew... Im done typing hehe.
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I change my oil every 1500-2000 miles, NON synthetic Castrol GTX. I WOT it almost every time I take it out at least once. Before I turn the engine off, I drive around witht he hood popped open for a good 5 min to get it cooled off in there, and then leave the hood open as often as possible for as long as possible after I shut her down. I let her idle for a min or two when I start her up, and never boost it till 10 min after its warmed up.
Im 17 years old and Im paying for the car, as well as doing every bit of work on it myself.
The only problem I have ever had was when I had to slam on the brakes because an SUV couldnt see me because the car is lowered, its Black, my headlights are so weak, and it was pitch black outside. When I did slam on my brakes I had to swirve as well, and because I daily drive my FD , It was during the winter and I hit a patch of ice on the side of the road, and slid off and clipped a small tree, scratching up my front bumper, and denting my fender. The SUV went on driving as happy as ever so yes, I got raped in the situation. So Id like to raise that issue as well, being that the Seven is more nimble and lighter, more focus must be spent on driving and it is more difficult to control in certain situations.
How do I afford my car insurance and gas? well simple, Ive been saving money and working my *** off for 3 years dedicating all money to saving for My seven because I am that interested and infatuated with the seven and the rotary engine. MY parents paid for the car, but they only reason they did it, was because they told me they had to because if I was to miss a payment to a bank it would be bad so they insisted on letting me pay them back instead.
whew... Im done typing hehe.
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Originally posted by yzf-r1
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time to stop being so evasive and put your cards on the table, Jim....what exactly happened with your 7 to make you say that?
you have to admit the engine management PF used in your car was not the greatest, a PFC or Haltech would no doubt have helped [/B]
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time to stop being so evasive and put your cards on the table, Jim....what exactly happened with your 7 to make you say that?
you have to admit the engine management PF used in your car was not the greatest, a PFC or Haltech would no doubt have helped [/B]
The TEC II is a fine ECU... if you don't agree then argue with Ray Lockheads (Shane Racing) racing record. The Haltech is no better or worse... just a bit different.
Like I said... go get yourself one of these single turbo wonders and find out for yourself!
12-13-02, 01:24 AM
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Keep the Supra. It is without a doubt one of the greatest production cars ever made.
Brett
1997 GSX (if it was just slow i would be happy, unfortunately its a turd)
1988 323 GT Turbo(3rd Gen on two operating, good condition turbos, with no boost leaks fast)
Brett
1997 GSX (if it was just slow i would be happy, unfortunately its a turd)
1988 323 GT Turbo(3rd Gen on two operating, good condition turbos, with no boost leaks fast)
12-13-02, 01:28 AM
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Keep the Supra. It is without a doubt one of the greatest production cars ever made.
Brett
1997 GSX (if it was just slow i would be happy, unfortunately its a turd)
1988 323 GT Turbo(3rd Gen on two operating, good condition turbos, with no boost leaks fast)
Keep the Supra. It is without a doubt one of the greatest production cars ever made.
Brett
1997 GSX (if it was just slow i would be happy, unfortunately its a turd)
1988 323 GT Turbo(3rd Gen on two operating, good condition turbos, with no boost leaks fast)
12-17-02, 11:24 PM
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I've got a single supra and single rx7. The rx7 is loud as hell cause it has to be to get the max power out of it with a single. Neighbors complain all the time about the noise and not to mention the smoke evertime i start it up. But to me thats part of the charm of it...its real hardcore and like a race car. The supra on the other hand is very quiet at idle and very roomy and comfortable to drive. Power wise, the supra has about 200 rwhp advantage to the rx7 and i can easilty take it too a 300 rwhp adv. Thats a huge diff. I'll be running 10's consistently in ths supra while i'll be lucky if i can run mid 11's consistently in the 7 without breaking something. Handling wise..the rx7 feels more stable. I've road raced both and the rx7 is much easier to drive and push to the limit. The single 7 is beautiful for the road coarse, just enouph power and handling to pass most cars. Both cars suck at autocross although the rx7 can still be kinda fun. Reliability wise..the 7 needs the reliability mods as i had a engine blow on me running stock seals. I've had no major problems with my 7 but i've had a few pesky little problems (frayed wires, broken sensors) but if you don't mind doin a bit of work yourself you'll be ok with the 7. I never had to touch the supra for any problems.
My friend has a bpu auto supra and loves it and with a torque converter, he can run low 11's on stock turbos.
In summary, if your power hungry and love to show off at the dyno then go with supra. If you can live with 11's and 450 rwhp and little mechanical problems then go with a 7 with a rebuilt engine and reliability mods.
my .02
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My friend has a bpu auto supra and loves it and with a torque converter, he can run low 11's on stock turbos.
In summary, if your power hungry and love to show off at the dyno then go with supra. If you can live with 11's and 450 rwhp and little mechanical problems then go with a 7 with a rebuilt engine and reliability mods.
my .02
joe
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12-18-02, 02:22 AM
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Rookie84, I am basically in the same situation as you, except for that I drive a 95 M3, and I am planning on selling it for a Supra TT or RX7. I'm the one that posted on Supraforums about the 2JZ-GTE swap into the RX7. Anyways, I am probably going to go with a Supra because that will be a daily driver
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Hey Rookie, whats up man i've seen you posting on supraforums alot...im glad to hear you're staying the in the supra community! Ive also got an Auto BPU+ supra and im in the process of going single (SP67)...my suggestion to you is get a 3600-4000 stall, it makes the auto alot more fun to drive and it kicks *** at the strip! If you're ever in the Philadelphia area send me a PM and we can meet up...we've got a lot of nasty supra's and 7's around my way...later
Andrew
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12-18-02, 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Nathan Kwok
........And don't test drive one because seriously, RX-7s feel so great to drive its like a drug, you'll get addicted and then its all over. .....
........And don't test drive one because seriously, RX-7s feel so great to drive its like a drug, you'll get addicted and then its all over. .....
12-18-02, 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by ISUposs
RX-7s can be reasonably reliable. I drive mine on a daily basis with very few issues. It's not really the optimum daily driver, but it can be done.
RX-7s can be reasonably reliable. I drive mine on a daily basis with very few issues. It's not really the optimum daily driver, but it can be done.
I thinks its a GREAT daily driver when it's not in the shop
12-18-02, 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by nycRedRex
I've got a single supra and single rx7. The rx7 is loud as hell cause it has to be to get the max power out of it with a single. Neighbors complain all the time about the noise and not to mention the smoke evertime i start it up. But to me thats part of the charm of it...its real hardcore and like a race car. The supra on the other hand is very quiet at idle and very roomy and comfortable to drive. Power wise, the supra has about 200 rwhp advantage to the rx7 and i can easilty take it too a 300 rwhp adv. Thats a huge diff. I'll be running 10's consistently in ths supra while i'll be lucky if i can run mid 11's consistently in the 7 without breaking something. Handling wise..the rx7 feels more stable. I've road raced both and the rx7 is much easier to drive and push to the limit. The single 7 is beautiful for the road coarse, just enouph power and handling to pass most cars. Both cars suck at autocross although the rx7 can still be kinda fun. Reliability wise..the 7 needs the reliability mods as i had a engine blow on me running stock seals. I've had no major problems with my 7 but i've had a few pesky little problems (frayed wires, broken sensors) but if you don't mind doin a bit of work yourself you'll be ok with the 7. I never had to touch the supra for any problems.
My friend has a bpu auto supra and loves it and with a torque converter, he can run low 11's on stock turbos.
In summary, if your power hungry and love to show off at the dyno then go with supra. If you can live with 11's and 450 rwhp and little mechanical problems then go with a 7 with a rebuilt engine and reliability mods.
my .02
joe
I've got a single supra and single rx7. The rx7 is loud as hell cause it has to be to get the max power out of it with a single. Neighbors complain all the time about the noise and not to mention the smoke evertime i start it up. But to me thats part of the charm of it...its real hardcore and like a race car. The supra on the other hand is very quiet at idle and very roomy and comfortable to drive. Power wise, the supra has about 200 rwhp advantage to the rx7 and i can easilty take it too a 300 rwhp adv. Thats a huge diff. I'll be running 10's consistently in ths supra while i'll be lucky if i can run mid 11's consistently in the 7 without breaking something. Handling wise..the rx7 feels more stable. I've road raced both and the rx7 is much easier to drive and push to the limit. The single 7 is beautiful for the road coarse, just enouph power and handling to pass most cars. Both cars suck at autocross although the rx7 can still be kinda fun. Reliability wise..the 7 needs the reliability mods as i had a engine blow on me running stock seals. I've had no major problems with my 7 but i've had a few pesky little problems (frayed wires, broken sensors) but if you don't mind doin a bit of work yourself you'll be ok with the 7. I never had to touch the supra for any problems.
My friend has a bpu auto supra and loves it and with a torque converter, he can run low 11's on stock turbos.
In summary, if your power hungry and love to show off at the dyno then go with supra. If you can live with 11's and 450 rwhp and little mechanical problems then go with a 7 with a rebuilt engine and reliability mods.
my .02
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12-18-02, 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by BoostCrazy
Hey Rookie, whats up man i've seen you posting on supraforums alot...im glad to hear you're staying the in the supra community! Ive also got an Auto BPU+ supra and im in the process of going single (SP67)...my suggestion to you is get a 3600-4000 stall, it makes the auto alot more fun to drive and it kicks *** at the strip! If you're ever in the Philadelphia area send me a PM and we can meet up...we've got a lot of nasty supra's and 7's around my way...later
Andrew
Hey Rookie, whats up man i've seen you posting on supraforums alot...im glad to hear you're staying the in the supra community! Ive also got an Auto BPU+ supra and im in the process of going single (SP67)...my suggestion to you is get a 3600-4000 stall, it makes the auto alot more fun to drive and it kicks *** at the strip! If you're ever in the Philadelphia area send me a PM and we can meet up...we've got a lot of nasty supra's and 7's around my way...later
Andrew
Happy boosting!