Clutch with a full LIFETIME GUARANTEE
03-04-06, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BMike
Thats alot like a lifetime waranty muffler, sure you can always get new mufflers, but they aren't going to replace the muffler without fixing all the other problems your exhaust will assuredly have by then at cost to you.
IE, do you really want to buy a "lifetime garuntee" clutch that has to be replaced every 2-3 years, if that. I wouldn't trust an autozone OE replacement to hold anything much above a stock 7s power and last any real ammount of time. My time is worth way more than saving 100 bucks on the "last clutch ill ever pay for, but certainly not install".
IE, do you really want to buy a "lifetime garuntee" clutch that has to be replaced every 2-3 years, if that. I wouldn't trust an autozone OE replacement to hold anything much above a stock 7s power and last any real ammount of time. My time is worth way more than saving 100 bucks on the "last clutch ill ever pay for, but certainly not install".
Not the same at all, you go to a parts store and buy the parts, part goes bad you take it back and get another one for free.....where does this cover installation or other parts ? ? ? ? I bought a Jeep in 84 and have used nothing but lifetime replacement parts on it, so far I've replaced 3 starters, several rounds of brake pads and two clutches and only bought the original. 4 wheel drives eat this stuff up in mud and water. SO if your hard on your clutch and only want to pay for one then this is a good deal.
03-04-06, 11:37 PM
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Just a follow up guys, i dont know if luk offers the lifetime warranty through their website it might be cheaper there. I havent really looked into it but if you go throught autozone you'll get the customer service to back up the warranty. = )
03-05-06, 01:33 AM
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You know, I get the gist of what you guys are saying about a performance car needing performance parts, and I wouldnt go around recommending a stock clutch for most FD's...after all, the majority these days are at least mildly modded.
But, some of you guys have the attitude that you drive a fricken ferrari, and that if it isn't a 'racing" version part and costs 10x what the equivalent part would cost for a domestic car, then it can't be right.
The truth is, the stock or near stock FD makes less torque at it's peak than your average mustang or chevy truck does at 3000rpm. Yet you never hear of these autozone clutches failing on those engines. Stop and think about it...the FD is a fairly powerful and peaky engine, but 250 crank hp (and less torque) isn't all that much in reality when compared to lots of other "normal" vehicles on the road.
Just a reality check for all you mclaren...I mean mazda drivers out there.
But, some of you guys have the attitude that you drive a fricken ferrari, and that if it isn't a 'racing" version part and costs 10x what the equivalent part would cost for a domestic car, then it can't be right.
The truth is, the stock or near stock FD makes less torque at it's peak than your average mustang or chevy truck does at 3000rpm. Yet you never hear of these autozone clutches failing on those engines. Stop and think about it...the FD is a fairly powerful and peaky engine, but 250 crank hp (and less torque) isn't all that much in reality when compared to lots of other "normal" vehicles on the road.
Just a reality check for all you mclaren...I mean mazda drivers out there.
03-05-06, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection
But, some of you guys have the attitude that you drive a fricken ferrari, and that if it isn't a 'racing" version part and costs 10x what the equivalent part would cost for a domestic car, then it can't be right.
Just a reality check.......
Just a reality check.......
For me, other's experience was important when chosing my clutch. I searched and read here before buying. Hopefully over time, this clutch will be tried and will either be proven as a good value (for a stock or near stock car) or junk.
Why does this whole thread remind me of the debate over ebay intercoolers?
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12-08-06, 08:59 AM
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FYI, Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) does NOT necessarily mean Original Equipment (OE) quality.
It's a dirty secret of the parts industry.
Luk CAN have a different plant that uses lower quality materials and lower quality control.
I'm not necessarily saying they do, but they could.
Take for instance my radiator for my Mercedes 500E.
The OEM is BEHR.
However, the OE BEHR (with the Mercedes "star" and Mercedes pn#) is made in Germany and has internal "turbulators" and specific mounting holes as specified in the Mercedes technical specifications.
The OEM BEHR is made in South Africa, and doesn't have the turbulators or mounting holes. It's also $175 cheaper than the Factory OE radiator.
The same is true for wheels.
Just because BBS is an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) for both Mazda and Mercedes, their factory/original equipment (OE) wheels are 99.99% made to a higher quality than the majority of their "aftermarket"/OEM wheels.
That's because the factory/OE specifications/build-sheet are usually of a higher quality (e.g., durability; corrosion resistance; strength; material selection, etc.) than the majority of their wheel line for the same vehicle.
What manufacturers are leveraing on is a concept called: similarity heuristics, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similarity_heuristic
We assume that since x-manufacturer makes parts for Mazda, Mercedes, etc., then ALL parts from x-manufacturer are of the same quality and are EQUAL in value/quality.
In short, we "form biases based on similarity through comparison with past experiences".
We humans do this all day long, from the things we read; the items we purchase; the music we listen to; even the ideas we believe in.
Dan Brown's, "The DaVinci Code" was a great novel; hence his other novel "Angels & Demons" must also be good.
U2's album "War" was excellent; hence their album "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" is probably just as good.
Wolfgang Puck's restaurant food is wonderful, I bet his canned food is also great.
I argue it's the root of "tell a lie long and often enough and it becomes truth" e.g., "there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
If I had a stock FD, I'd give it a try.
:-) neil
It's a dirty secret of the parts industry.
Luk CAN have a different plant that uses lower quality materials and lower quality control.
I'm not necessarily saying they do, but they could.
Take for instance my radiator for my Mercedes 500E.
The OEM is BEHR.
However, the OE BEHR (with the Mercedes "star" and Mercedes pn#) is made in Germany and has internal "turbulators" and specific mounting holes as specified in the Mercedes technical specifications.
The OEM BEHR is made in South Africa, and doesn't have the turbulators or mounting holes. It's also $175 cheaper than the Factory OE radiator.
The same is true for wheels.
Just because BBS is an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) for both Mazda and Mercedes, their factory/original equipment (OE) wheels are 99.99% made to a higher quality than the majority of their "aftermarket"/OEM wheels.
That's because the factory/OE specifications/build-sheet are usually of a higher quality (e.g., durability; corrosion resistance; strength; material selection, etc.) than the majority of their wheel line for the same vehicle.
What manufacturers are leveraing on is a concept called: similarity heuristics, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similarity_heuristic
We assume that since x-manufacturer makes parts for Mazda, Mercedes, etc., then ALL parts from x-manufacturer are of the same quality and are EQUAL in value/quality.
In short, we "form biases based on similarity through comparison with past experiences".
We humans do this all day long, from the things we read; the items we purchase; the music we listen to; even the ideas we believe in.
Dan Brown's, "The DaVinci Code" was a great novel; hence his other novel "Angels & Demons" must also be good.
U2's album "War" was excellent; hence their album "How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb" is probably just as good.
Wolfgang Puck's restaurant food is wonderful, I bet his canned food is also great.
I argue it's the root of "tell a lie long and often enough and it becomes truth" e.g., "there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
If I had a stock FD, I'd give it a try.
:-) neil
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12-08-06, 11:04 AM
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but since you mentioned it.....
Originally Posted by M104-AMG
....I argue it's the root of "tell a lie long and often enough and it becomes truth" e.g., "there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack
Politics aside, good point on the clutch subject.
12-09-06, 04:09 AM
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i can tell you that the luk clutch took a few years of constant abuse on a friend of mines 240sx...
better than slowboy if you ask me, but i will recommend ACT clutches till i die
the clutch has taken so much abuse and still feels and looks great as my clutch has survived two trannys, two lsds, drag radials, victoracers, and a motor
better than slowboy if you ask me, but i will recommend ACT clutches till i die
the clutch has taken so much abuse and still feels and looks great as my clutch has survived two trannys, two lsds, drag radials, victoracers, and a motor
12-09-06, 11:01 AM
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Not all lifetime warrantys mean YOUR lifetime, Just like a life sentence in jail means 25 years yet we live for about 80-90 years.
May mean it has a warranty for the life of an average clutch or all parts are warranted for the life of the friction plate.
Depends the way they interperate it, read the warranty carfully i think you will find it wont be coverd for 25 years.
May mean it has a warranty for the life of an average clutch or all parts are warranted for the life of the friction plate.
Depends the way they interperate it, read the warranty carfully i think you will find it wont be coverd for 25 years.
04-21-07, 09:32 PM
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^good point but not true for this... Autozone warrenties are put into their computer system for 999 months (it breaks down time into months) the warrenty acutally covers more then a lifetime because you can have warrenties transfered.
I dont believe they still sell this clutch anymore so its all kinda useless, i only bring it up because i kinda like autozone.
I dont believe they still sell this clutch anymore so its all kinda useless, i only bring it up because i kinda like autozone.
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