Is CAM 2 110 octane gas ok to run?
10-14-02 | 10:01 PM
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It's OK to run 110 octane as long as it's unleaded. If you don't care about your O2 sensor, then you can run the leaded stuff too.
All that high octane fuel does is prevent detonation. You can run higher boost w/ less risk of detonation w/ high octane fuel.
No mods needed.
All that high octane fuel does is prevent detonation. You can run higher boost w/ less risk of detonation w/ high octane fuel.
No mods needed.
10-15-02 | 12:55 AM
#6
Cam 2 is a leaded gasoline.
I was considering running some in my car as well, but upon further investigation, I decided not to. I actually ended up calling Sunoco and asking them if it was safe, and them advised against it in any fuel injected car. The reason for this is the fact that the lead will eat away at your oxygen sensor, thus leading to premature failure. Because lead doesn't burn, it will also clog your catalytic convertor. The lead will become trapped in the "cat" which will lead to the convertor overheating, which, in turn, will lead to more problems.
Bottom line; don't use leaded fuel in your fuel injected car. Some nice 97-103 unleaded will do great but may be less accessable.
Regards,
Kyle
I was considering running some in my car as well, but upon further investigation, I decided not to. I actually ended up calling Sunoco and asking them if it was safe, and them advised against it in any fuel injected car. The reason for this is the fact that the lead will eat away at your oxygen sensor, thus leading to premature failure. Because lead doesn't burn, it will also clog your catalytic convertor. The lead will become trapped in the "cat" which will lead to the convertor overheating, which, in turn, will lead to more problems.
Bottom line; don't use leaded fuel in your fuel injected car. Some nice 97-103 unleaded will do great but may be less accessable.
Regards,
Kyle
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10-15-02 | 01:53 AM
#9
uhm, remove it when the car is NOT running, and plug the hole/bung. you can drive the car with the O2 not hooked up. my standalone ecu lets me disable the o2 sensor when i do this.
10-15-02 | 02:11 AM
#10
Question: For what purpose would you want to remove the oxygen sensor? If the FD's stock computer is like every other stock computer, this would likely throw the computer into safe mode, prohibiting optimal performance from the car.
With wanting to run Cam 2 fuel, you are obviously wanting more performance or a safe guard against detonation. I would prefer a proper running car over a car running in safe mode anyday.
Bottom line: It's not advised that you use Cam 2 in your car.
Kyle
With wanting to run Cam 2 fuel, you are obviously wanting more performance or a safe guard against detonation. I would prefer a proper running car over a car running in safe mode anyday.
Bottom line: It's not advised that you use Cam 2 in your car.
Kyle
10-15-02 | 02:29 AM
#11
Originally posted by Mazderati
Question: For what purpose would you want to remove the oxygen sensor? If the FD's stock computer is like every other stock computer, this would likely throw the computer into safe mode, prohibiting optimal performance from the car.
With wanting to run Cam 2 fuel, you are obviously wanting more performance or a safe guard against detonation. I would prefer a proper running car over a car running in safe mode anyday.
Bottom line: It's not advised that you use Cam 2 in your car.
Kyle
Question: For what purpose would you want to remove the oxygen sensor? If the FD's stock computer is like every other stock computer, this would likely throw the computer into safe mode, prohibiting optimal performance from the car.
With wanting to run Cam 2 fuel, you are obviously wanting more performance or a safe guard against detonation. I would prefer a proper running car over a car running in safe mode anyday.
Bottom line: It's not advised that you use Cam 2 in your car.
Kyle
10-15-02 | 02:53 AM
#12
under full throttle, the computer reverts to built in( or programed) fuel and timing maps. it dosen't even pay attention to the O2 sensor.
Bottom line: it could care less if your O2 sensor was there or not!
Bottom line: it could care less if your O2 sensor was there or not!
10-15-02 | 03:16 AM
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FourtyOunce,
There is no reason for me to "try" and be a "smart azz." I am simply stating facts.
ISUposs,
By stating that a car's computer does not care about correct readings via the oxygen sensor, what is EVERY manufacturer's justification in using an oxygen sensor? Advertisement purposes? Looks? Regardless of whether or not a computer has preprogrammed fuel and timing maps that it reverts to under full throttle, the oxygen sensor is still a player. The car is not going to run correctly, or optimally, without the oxygen sensor, from what I understand.
So again, I state will state that using Cam 2, which is leaded gasoline in a fuel injected car, is not advised. Regardless of what the oxygen sensor actually does is really not relevant to this topic. Fact is, leaded gasoline eats oxygen sensors.
Kyle
There is no reason for me to "try" and be a "smart azz." I am simply stating facts.
ISUposs,
By stating that a car's computer does not care about correct readings via the oxygen sensor, what is EVERY manufacturer's justification in using an oxygen sensor? Advertisement purposes? Looks? Regardless of whether or not a computer has preprogrammed fuel and timing maps that it reverts to under full throttle, the oxygen sensor is still a player. The car is not going to run correctly, or optimally, without the oxygen sensor, from what I understand.
So again, I state will state that using Cam 2, which is leaded gasoline in a fuel injected car, is not advised. Regardless of what the oxygen sensor actually does is really not relevant to this topic. Fact is, leaded gasoline eats oxygen sensors.
Kyle
10-15-02 | 04:48 AM
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You could run heated oxygen sensors. These are 3 wire to 6 wire sensors. Costs 50 bucks for the cheapest ones and can take the abuse of leaded fuel more easily. 5 bucks for a gallon of 110 is pretty good....
Danny
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10-15-02 | 09:55 AM
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closed loop. 
btw...here is another thread about raising your octane. imo it is cheaper than $5.00 a gal, but can not get 110 oct. safely. what boost levels are you running with a stock computer? what are you trying to accomplish by running 110? running 110 oct is not going to give you more power. the higher the octane rating the slower it burns. thus giving you more of a "cussion" against detonation. it DOES NOT ADD POWER JUST BECAUSE OF THE RATING. it allows you to make more power(dont know if you know that, but was stating it for anyone who thinks otherwise...i know there are people out there who think this. )
btw...here is another thread about raising your octane. imo it is cheaper than $5.00 a gal, but can not get 110 oct. safely. what boost levels are you running with a stock computer? what are you trying to accomplish by running 110? running 110 oct is not going to give you more power. the higher the octane rating the slower it burns. thus giving you more of a "cussion" against detonation. it DOES NOT ADD POWER JUST BECAUSE OF THE RATING. it allows you to make more power(dont know if you know that, but was stating it for anyone who thinks otherwise...i know there are people out there who think this.
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10-15-02 | 09:56 AM
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opps forgot the link. https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=117342
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