I talked to Ray, and there is core-charge if you don't send back your core.

:-) neil

 

1000.00 core charge

 

Ok, to break this down...$3500 for a brand new engine and $4500 for one with no exchange....and we pay approx $3500 for a typical good rebuild with one new rotor housing....Bad economy or not I think a phone call to Ray is in order.

 

Damn this is so tempting to buy just to have it when that time does come.

So for an additional 900 you get a brand new, not a reman engine?

 

Forgot to add, would i be wrong to assume that you can opt for the engine for a auto or manual?

 

i wish i had the cash to buy one.

 

I wonder if they would accept a 3mm and street-ported core???

I guess the whole thing was set up for Mazda to get cores for producing remans.

How could they use a ported and 3mm core?

 

Dave@KDR told me at one time they use to take just about anything back. But I dont remember if he said they would take them back now and/or only give you some sort of partial core refund depending on how modded it was. Would be worth it to call Ray and find out.

 

$3500 for brand new short block. Freaking deal right there.

 

^ Seriously...

I don't even need a motor and I'm thinking about picking one up for that price.

/subscribed.

 

I have a feeling that if I ever get a 7, Ray and I are gonna be pretty good friends. Malloy is like 5 miles from my house.

 

I got new engine sent to me last week to replace reman that failed.

 

Mazdaspeed Motorsport may have them too!

No guarantee of PN's
JEC3-02-000 ENGINE ASSY $3370.45

JEC3-99-000* ENGINE/AUTO TRANS UNIT $6650.00

B32F-02-000 S ENGINE, 1.3L $1345.20

 

LOL all this excitement over a new engine that it will blow just the same with a bad tune as any rebuilt engine for less money. Now if Mazda struck a deal with NRS and installed some of their ceramic apex seals, that would be a different story. Oh well since that will never happen, what Mazda really needs to do is lower the cost of the damn rotor housings instead.

 

Stubba, and those that already have the new engines:

can you please post pics of the plaque on the engine ?

Hopefully it does not say "reman".

Also, please post the part number.

Thanks,
:-) neil

 

part number# N3G1-02-200R-00 ENGINE,NEW CORE PRICE 6805.29

 

I called MazdaMotorsports, and that number with the "R" still means REMAN in their computers.

It MIGHT be that just a short-run of reman engines will have everything 100% new. . .

Which kind of makes sense . . .

:-) neil

 

I am ordering one next wednesday from Ray. Talked to him, he said he is trying to get more. I am still going to have PFS tear it down and port it since i am dropping my FD off for a rebuild anyway. Cant beat the price.

 

No rebuilt motor will ever match the tolerances of a Japanese Auto-Line.

Get one of these, install reliability mods including Alcohol Injection and it should outlast any rebuilt motor.

But you're right, a MAZDA BUILT motor with NRS seals and Cermet Housings would be the bees knees.

 

I don't understand the economics of buying a new OEM motor and then immediately opening it for porting... Isn't the point that you save money on labor by having it already together and in perfect running order? Can you please explain your reasoning?

Why not just send your current housings to JHB for cermet restoration then buy some rotors and NRS seals?? You'd spend less than $3500 on that, plus you'd be ballin with ceramics.

 

Well the coatings out right now suck(heard this from other members). The price of new housings is around $1000 and for new everything is alot more than $3500 so having a engine that is new tearing it apart and porting is better than taking my engine that has a blown rear rotor(around 13000 on some parts) and getting two new housings, a rotor, balancing, and port to match my old one and all new seals. It is going to cost close to the same price if i go either way(only like a $500 difference) and this way i am starting with all fresh internals and on my way for power. I am going single turbo in the spring so a large street port or half bridge is what i am looking for to help spool and more air flow and they should only have to repace soft seals.

 

[QUOTE=zenofspeed;8645921]No rebuilt motor will ever match the tolerances of a Japanese Auto-Line. QUOTE]

That's what I was thinking all along and was the deciding factor on me getting one.

 

Really? I haven't seen that yet. I guess I'll do a search for bad experiences with JHB cermet coated housings. They can re-work old housings and coat them with cermet for $1000 a pair.

So you're sending your core to Ray?

 

In another thread, it has been observed that engines out of Japan, have metal front-cover gaskets.

So, to those of you who have received these "new" 13b-rews, can you take a look and take a picture (camera probably in "macro"/close-up mode) and post ?

Thanks,
:-) neil

 

I have heard the coating wears alot faster than the stock chrome. Also heard the quality of their coatings has not been consistant batch to batch and people have goten them back and had nicks in the housings. Rather just get new ones.

Yes i will be taking it to Ray at PF Supercars since he is like an hour away from me and my car is going up there November 8th. Already talked to him and it is just better to start with all new parts because tolerances will be alot better and my other engine was ported by someone else and he rather do his own port than try to match someone elses. Wouldnt you want to start with a new engine rather than a used one(that needs extra parts and has miles on it) for your car?

Heres two threads about the coating and JHB.https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=jhb+cermet
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=jhb+cermet