Since the Venom secondary injectors are the same size as the stock secondary injectors, you'd think the Venom's would flow at least 850cc if they were just "remans."


I am really hoping it was a big mistake as well. I'm in the process of contacting Spoolin' to help get this straightened out.

 

Yes I was thinking that coming back from a little drive to a friends. I was going to ask if they were the 850 length or the 550 length? I think I remember guitarjunkie said they dropped right in, so I am assuming they are 850 length.

It leads you to believe that these are not specifically built to be 1600s right off the bat though, experience tells us that the failure rate is higher when the injectors are bored out to flow higher than intended amounts of fuel.

I hope everything works out for you, and it’s a good thing you were smart enough to test those before throwing them in.

 

Yes, I'm very glad I had them tested out as well. I'll just go with the "classic" 1600cc secondary set-up --> Bosch top-feeds with custom fuel rail, harnesses, resistors, etc


I hope this serves as enough of a warning to others, however!!

 

That really blows! I can understand a set not completed and results came back as 850's but damn ...550's? Were the other guys that bought these friends? No one else tested these? Hmm, sounds like a lynch mob. Will the real slim shady please reply to the post.

 

I think I counted about half a dozen ppl posting that they had bought them, but hadn't flow tested them yet etc...so that's quite a bit of ppl who got suckered, IF these truly only flow 500cc...

 

Holy Crap!!!

 

Just don’t be too quick to cut to the quip. Give the guy some time to respond and see if he will do the right thing and replace the injectors that you have with injectors that he has tested on his dime to reassure that you get a good set, assuming any of these are truly 1600s. I still am getting a strong feeling if these are 1600s they are a bored out existing injector, with no modifications to the driver that would help it control the new amount of force being exerted on the injector.

 

I am in no way bashing the original seller - I really don't believe he is out to blatently scam anyone. Spoolin' Rotary was quick to respond to my issues, and has indicated he would be happy to either refund or replace my injectors. I think he is handling the situation very amicably.

There may be some very poor quality control problems at Venom, however, and that is a huge concern. If I had more time to mess around with this, I'D get a new set and continue to be the guniea pig, however my car has to be back together in a few weeks for a tuning sesson with Steve Kan. So I am just going to go with a proven set-up utilizing Bosch 1680's and an aftermarket fuel rail.

I just want someone to help make sense of all this - if Venom is boring out stock 850's, then how can I get a set of 550's built in a secondary body?!?! I still seriously doublt they are boring out stock injectors. So, if they are in fact building them from the ground up, utilizing Denso parts, then how is it that they could possibly sneak in a few 550 internals??

Either way, test 'em before you use 'em!!

 

hey guys, I told busy13B i'd refund him his $$ since he cant wait for another set. Im in no way going to rob him. The supplier that I got them from had a guy in the UK flow them and they cam out at 1610cc so maybe there was a mixup. He is also in IL and has sold many to the RX7 guys there and had them flowed at a shop by him and no probs. Either way, I told Busy13B i'd get him new injectors or refund the $$. Must have been a shitty set. I bought some 1000cc injectors top feeds for my supra and had them flowed and they came out fine as well as some 780cc injectors top feeds.
Regardless of what I say you might still think im full of BS but its cool. Just thought i'd help out.
As for the 550cc instead of 850cc I really dont know what to say. I think he might have gotten sent the wrong ones.

 

^ you would be helping out if it was true. I would buy a set to keep things simple and not change the rails. If not, i'll bore out some new 850's to 1300's. I think you would get alot of orders ...if they were confirmed and proven.

 

So were is the cheapest place to get the 1600cc kit at?

 

Have anyone else test the flow amount besides busy13b?

I have a friend who just got them and he said the box is genuine and injector has a new nippondenso plastic cap with numbers different from the stock 850cc. He will try to get a flow test done in next few days and let me know about the result.

busy13b, are you sure you got the correct injector from your source? 550cc injectors have a totally different physical size compare to 850 and 1600cc injectors. I think you may have a wrong injectors ship to you. Can you reconfirm that?

Andy

 

I can confirm that the injectors sent to me were the exact same size and dimensions as the stock 850's. I also test-fitted them in my secondary fuel rail before shipping them off, and they were a perfect fit. That's why I was so baffled when RC reported that they had only flowed 550cc.


And that is why RC ended up flowing them 3 separate times to really really make sure we were looking at 550's.

 

One other thing I wanted to point out:

Spoolin Rotary was excellent to work with throughout this entire process - he was quick to address this situation, and worked with me through the process of making it right. So big kudois to Spoolin Rotary!!!


Here is the flow chart I got from RC Engineering:

 

Thanks busy13b, don't mean to not trusting your claim, I just want to reconfirm the injector size as to clarify for others.

Anyone else done the same flow test on these new injectors?? Please share your result!

Spoolin Rotory, didn't you said you are going to test them to prove to everyone it'll flow 1600cc without questions, what's the result?

 

Well I just had all my injectors tested, the factory 550cc and 850cc I had cleaned and flowed the 550 put out 620cc and the 850cc put out 900.

However the Venom 1600 which are brand new I got them flow tested and one was leaking fuel and one was not firing, after managing to get them to go constantly the max the flowed was 560cc

will post the official form tomorrow.... I'm not to happy about this, 2 tests down and both the same result

 

Mmmm....interesting. Thanks for posting Phikeoghan!

I'll check with my friends test result and report later too.

 

Same result here.
I had Spoolin Rotary ship the injectors to my brother in NY who then shipped them over to me here in the UK. I had them flowed this weekend and guess what? 550cc.
pm'ed and emailed Ryan on Saturday but as yet I've heard nothing back from him.

 

efiniste,

Hopefully, Spoolin will get back on and refund your money.

This seemed too good to be true and I guess it was indeed not true.

 

glad i'm finding this out before i used mine!!

 

Aren't you the first to buy these sets?? LOL!

 

Man this sucks, I so wanted there to be a really easy and reliable way to upgrade injectors while being able to keep my emissions.

Hope everybody that bought them had them flowed, thanks to those of you who reported your results and saved the rest of us from buying these injectors.

 

Bump....Just curious if anyone has had success with these. Anyone???

 

Im currious as to if anyone has gotten 1600's from him yet, as he said he would replace the 550's busy13b got but he wanted refund instead. I have some 1300' s that I got from him but havent gotten them flowed yet. I figured id go with 1300 to be safe if they were drilled 850's.

l8r
Jeremy

 

yea i think i was.
i got the motor together for that car, and the 5-speed conversion is done... as soon as the turbo gets in, i'll be able to wire up the haltech and get it fired up.

since i have to ship out a few injectors to get cleaned anyway, i might as well just toss those in the pile--just to make sure.