Then if it's successful, will all the Jim's jump from their pistons back to the rotory powered cars?

 

I'm not aware of the price going up to $700.

can u show me that info?

 

Hell no - I'm not that stupid! haha

 

And Jimlab's response?

 

I will get more info on that. My friend was going in the fall to KDR to get the anti-det. device, and he told me they bumped the price up to $700 so he might go earlier before the price jumps up again.

 

Because, as stated in my previous posts, this guy claims that all those carbon deposits start to glow red hot and cause pre-ignition. His solution is to stick a metal plug into the combustion area that must be made of some magic material that doesnt heat up

 

[sarcasm]

We are working on a set of bushings to replace your stock rubber bushings with a top secret material I can't really tell you about becuase I'm getting a patent on it (no really I am!). These bushings completely eliminate wheel hop and let me have amazing '60 times on even a stock clutch, driveshaft, diff and rear axles with no risk of breaking!

I've got some people testing them now and once they're done we'll have them for sale....

(A year or so later)

Ok, I have a website now and you can buy the bushings, they're only $13,000 (seems fair, same markup % or so as the BP). So who wants a set?

Oh and in my totally stock '93 touring I ran a 1.154 '60 foot time on street tires with them, I just need to find my slip and I'll scan it really I will.

[/sarcasm]

While we're on the subject I've got a mircale diet drink to help everyone here who drinks milk, juice, soda, or any other beverage with calories lose weight. I'll give this one out free since I tried to get a patent on my secret technology but it was rejected Its called water and I think its about as revolutionary an idea as this is.

 

Steve,

I really don't think you understand what happened here. Maybe I can shed some light.

The problem started with the description of your product. Anti-detonation Device (AKA TrailPlug® device). Which led people to believe that it was something more than it really is.

It is misleading to call it a device.

Device: A contrivance or an invention serving a particular purpose, especially a machine used to perform one or more relatively simple tasks.

I would say that you actually have a component

component: A constituent element, as of a system. A part of a mechanical or electrical complex.

People were expecting a computer or something of that complex nature. So it was a big let down, especially charging $450 dollars for it, just screams greed (it's been stated over, and over). Even $100 dollars that's expensive. For what it is...

If you would had been completely honest that it was a rather simple product and that it would be offered at low cost (10%-20% profit) you would have people waiting in line to purchase it (if indeed it works). No need to jack up the prices since selling in bulk would yield you a greater profit margin. Your production cost plus a reasonable profit is what we should pay.

 

I believe it's the same metal as the engine block and the tips are coated.

I didn't ask in details on what the tips are coated with.

Then again that might be proprietary info so no one copies it

 

Well, I am in for a GB for these. It shouldn't be that hard to get many people who want them at $100. I don't think that $100 is too high of a price.

 

Double Amen!!

 

A miracle! Some information is released. Even if it were to be coated, just seeing him claim pre-ignition from hot carbon and then offering a solution by shoving a piece of metal into the housing, which in itself will be a hot spot, is just humerous.

 

Keep in mind that making $$$ selling rx7 parts is tough since it's a niche of a niche market and represents a small sale.

 

That statement applies to the FD only. This "product" applies to all rotaries. Not such a niche market after all.

 

that could be a "standard" disclaimer.

Look at upgraded intercoolers.

Sure, it will lower temps and help reduce kaboom, but it's no guarantee.

water injectors, upgrade injectors, fuel pumps, etc that makes the engine less likely to go kaboom are never guaranteed.

so if that statement was present on these aforementioned products would that hinder u from buying them?

or would u buy it knowing that poor tuning and fuel system failures can still cause kaboom, but on the flip side, it provides significant safeties in preventing u from dropping in another engine?

Once, again I think we should turn our attention to testing this and not so much on the nay-saying.

 

My impression is that this device does nothing at all (mechanically or electrically), except 'seal' the hole where the trailing plug would have gone. It doesn't 'fire' at all. So in essence, it is just a 'plug'. Am I mistaken, or did I not understand your post correctly?

Are there any pictures of it from inside the rotor housing? I'd like to see how well it actually 'seals' (does not allow a place for deposits to build up).

 

sport cars are a niche market of the auto industry.

rotary cars are a niche of that.

 

This is because you are simply wrong This does not ADD a spark to the combustion process, it REMOVES one. Look at the directions: 1) Remove Trailing Plugs 2) Insert Dummy Plugs 3) Disconnect Coil.

There will be THREE sparks per chamber per rotation CYCLE, but one per rotor face. Even without reading the webpage, you could've gathered that from the context clues of what everybody is posting.

edit: well, i'm talking about usable spark....not that wasted spark when the other rotor is igniting from the same coil.

 

Then why can I find Apex seals for $39.95?
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/cu...cat=503&page=1

Bottom line the price is not justified. Yes indeed it may do wonders for the car but then so does an apex seal .

I'm beginning to think that you are somehow making money on this.

 

u are correct.

 

Aktins seals from what I have heard are inferior to the rotary aviation seals which are $200~.

 

Hehe, actually FD's are the easiest people to sell to in the rotary world because (wait for it) they have much more money than FC or FB owners. There aren't a ton of FC's and FB's around the boards with 20K in them - a fw but not many ans I suspect that there are a bunch of FD's here with nearly 20K in mods.

Just because selling a product for a niche market is "hard" doesn't mean that you make a 1000% profit margin on a product (and I have a feeling I'm not far off here) to make up for your lack of sales/business skilss.

 

I understand what your saying, but all of those products do not point out an inherent flaw in the Rotary motor and suggest a solution that if looked at closely ( actually its blatently obvious), is just the original problem but could have a higher degree of severity.

There are so many questions as you were saying in this thread that suggest the product to be crap. It was a poor decision to not release any testing information before hand. Plain and simple.

 

Never Mind.....................

 

With a normal setup i could see where it would be a waste but with this i see were it would be able to ignite and let over since there will be more at that point then with the regular setup.