nopistons94

i didnt mean to say you wernt a hardworker , im working on your side here im 17 , but even with a few mods , ie intake and dp , you still have to get a boost guage and a boost controller because MORE then likely you will be over 10 psi , better to be safe then sorry

D1Import2nr

agreed

nopistons94

just my .02 but , most older dudes on the forum will flame anyone thats our age, however i have ment some very good friends on this forum that have helped me through my project and that i can always rely on. my buddy heath , and rich (goodfellafd3s) from gotham racing and his father are some of the best people that you can know and i give props to them for helping me out through the RX-7 experience , i freaking love my car.dont worry about the older ******** on this thing because you will do what you want regardless of other people , if you love something then do it and dont listen to anyone else man

diablone

iTrader: (2)

Then get an Accord.

D1Import2nr

lol no....im stickin with the FD


and nopistons.... Id agree but wouldnt go as harsh to sayin ********, cause i can see their point in seein another noob want a rx7, bc they make assumptions that arent true, although they can be seen as bad, i get the point they try to make, its all good

nopistons94

theres a difference between a noob and a retarted kid who dreams about a rx-7 , if your new thats cool but if you come on here saying "yo i want to cop diz phat off da hook rx-7 and put a tight bomex kit wit 25s and hott system that be knockin tight yo homie"

that kind of person can be flamed and shouldnt be driving a rx-7.


-joe

D1Import2nr

hahaha completely agreed, theres a huge difference between a dreamer and a noob, im a noob thats savin up for the fd, not just someone wanting to "look cool", of course thats unavoidable with a rex7

nopistons94

especially "wit dat off da hook bomex kit fo sho' my nikka" , good luck if you ever have any questions im always around , just pm or AIM me up


-joe

doncojones

"Older dudes" such as myself at the ripe old age of 21 realize that when they were 16 it was probably not the greatest idea to be driving around in a car capable of ripping off 13 second 1/4 miles and topping 150 mph.

Congratufreakinlations if you can swing an FD at 16 or 17 or whatever. Given my own personal experience being just a *few* years older than you guys I'm saying you should start with something else.

You don't even know how to drive yet and you're talking about how you'll "never drive a Civic." That's a load of crap and speaks volumes about your inexperience with cars.

Scoob2nrWRX

First off, not in reply to what "doncojones" said, is that, most of you guys come off to be know-it-alls and smart asses. I really don't think that is a good method to helping out new comers. Would you rather help a noob out with his car so he doesn't **** it up, or flame him to no end and not help him at all so he goes off and blows his engine?

Now, to dancojones, Are you saying that a 16 yr old can't handle the power of an FD. HAH, that's a load of crap. You can't make that judgement about someone just because they are 16. And to your comment about lack of experience with cars... how can you assume about a person that they have inexperience with cars ONLY because they are biased against one particular car that is commonly the platform for Uncle Ben's recipe for rice?

You guys need a reality check, IMO.

Larz

Someone ban this ******. We already had this arguement a few weeks ago.

Scoob2nrWRX

I haven't even had sex yet, how am I a ******?

And you wouldn't have these arguements if you all were helpful to new ppl that come here and rely on your info to help them.

D1Import2nr

all i gotta say is hey guys, im new to the forums, dont know where this thing went from there but it got outta hand. I'm going to find an FD and buy it. I means its an rx7club and people are tellin me not to?? I thought it would be like "yeah man have fun, welcome to the forums and we hope ur a regular here" instead u guys critisize me. Like i said, I realize you guys deal with this a lot and i can agree that it could get annoying. What im trying to get at is that im a nice guy, and I love rx7s, and I hope to be a regular on here as long as I dont get critisized. As long as we can be friendly and talk about rx7s, then I can gain my knowledge about them and not blow my engine. Im not going for a honda, bc I really like the rx7's. Im sorry for startin this up but I just wanted to introduce myself.

diablone

iTrader: (2)

I think it's funny how all the 16 and 17yr olds jump in to assure themselves that they are ready for this car and deserve it as much as anyone else.

Scoob2nrWRX

Please give me a reason why they don't deserve this car? I mean, are you trying to say that you are better than all of them??

FDKids1227

Hey D1Import2nr, yeah i just want to welcome you to this forum. I'm 16 and like you i am probably getting my FD this summer. Yeah some people in this forum like to flame on the younger drivers, they believe driving skill is all about age. Just because they're are older DOESN'T ALWAYS mean they have more experience, even though most of the time is does. But you have to respect what they say because they have had more experience with the car. I've been researching about the FD for about 2 years now. I'm still iffy about whether I'm going to get it, i'm not RICH and i work at my neighbors performance autoshop as an apprentice seeing a couple blown engines really makes you have second thoughts. Rx-7's are great and all but you should look into your pockets one more time before you buy it. But hey if you got the money GO FOR IT!!! the FD is a great car(asside from constant maintenance)

D1Import2nr

yeah thanks for the input FDkids, I agree that they are a lot wiser, and I take critisizm with open ears , until it gets overwhelming then I say somethin, but its all good

doncojones

Oh look, another guy with "2nr" in his name.

Look, I was 16 but five years ago. When I was 16, I thought I was a good driver. Looking back however I realize that I was not actually that great of a driver. How many people when they are 16 have actually driven a car or actually worked on one? Not very many, and that is my point.

The first thing to worry about rather than if a new driver can handle an FD while driving it up to its limits, is to worry about that same new driver can handle a regular car in regular traffic situations. The first thing to learn to do is to just get yourself to be a good driver in plain old everyday traffic. I have a little brother that's 17 and when he borrows my dad's Benz he feels invincible behind the wheel. I took a ride with him driving and could tell just from watching him that he was still not totally comfortable and relaxed behind the wheel nor did he have a firm grasp on how to keep the car under control.

Now am I making a generalization about new drivers based on limited examples? To a certain degree, yes. The fact is however, that most people when they just get their license have very little experience behind the wheel of a car or in working on a car.

I'm glad that I learned how to drive both on the streets and at autocrosses in low powered front wheel drive cars. They have lower limits and a higher margin of safety when you mess up. Sure lots of people rice out Civics, but I've seen plenty of FDs (ghasp!) that are riced out as well. It doesn’t really matter what other people do to similar cars to the one you drive because those aren’t your car. That is also far from the point that if one is to be driving aggressively at least learn how to do it on a car that will allow you to reach its limits and do it in a controlled environment.

As for a new driver being able to handle a car that even when stock has as high limits as the FD, no, I do not think a new driver can truly be good behind the wheel driving at those speeds or in those type of cornering situations. Add to the fact that the cars are now all at least 9 years old and bushings wear out which can cause snap oversteer problems and I'd want a kid to be driving one even less.

Learn to drive in traffic, learn car control at the limits, learn to work on cars, THEN buy a car that is has as high limits and is as much of a pain to work on as the FD. Just because you're a "2nr" doesn't mean you know how to drive or how to turn a wrench.
See, this is a bit more encouraging. You've been working in a shop and know your way around cars. I don't know if you can drive worth a damn but at least you'll be reasonably proficient in fixing an FD and have a realistic outlook on what it takes to maintain one. That's definitely in the right direction.

D1Import2nr

thats why Im not buying an rx7 until end of summer, gives me time to get to know the car a lot and ill be 17 by then with more driving experience, i know how to drive, but not EXTREMELY well, i get ur point totally, i signed up here to get as much information as I could B4 i get the car, so then I can be ready for it

clayne

Uhh isn't that the definition of a dreamer?

Now tell us the rationale behind your name:

D1 Import 2 NR

doncojones

What I mean is that you need to actually drive and actually work on cars. Reading about stuff on the internet and making a list of what parts you want (hey, we all do it ) can only get you so far. What most "slightly older" people will tell you and what I can say from experience is that you should do that stuff before jumping head first into an FD project with nothing more than knowledge gleaned from the internet. There's plenty of desk chair racers and mechanics out there, you should try to go beyond that.

clayne

Yes that's exactly what were saying. Someone who has been driving a car for one year (or even three) does not have enough experience to jump into a 250hp+/2800lb RWD car.

Most of the 16 and 17 yo's on this site have never had a reasonable RWD car in their life nor have they done any significant performance driving in a FWD car (light to light doesn't count bro).

clayne

doncojones has provided great perspective and advice here and I couldn't agree more.

d1 (we'll assume drift series in japan) import "tuner", your endless research and bench-racing aren't going to amount to ANYTHING until you have enough pre-experience to make use of new experience.

D1Import2nr

yeah thats exactly why ive met up with rotorbrain (paul) and xstacy7 (jack) and hopefully learn a lot through them, i realize sitting doesnt do ****, getting out there hands on does, i get what u mean

nopistons94

dreamer is someone who makes a name on this board and has no way of getting a FD or anyother rx-7. look my name is nopistons94 , no pistons 94 broken down , yea i own a 93 but that name was already taken i think ,but whatever reason ,i bought my car with my own money and everything else , i daily drive a nissan maxima 5spd 1991 and i love it great reliable car , sorry if some guys on this board dont respect younger guys for being able to save up for a FD , kids that have there mommy and daddy buy it for them dont count , this car is my own hard work and dedication

-joe