Am I missing something or is there pretty much no point in installing a miata thermos
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I think pretty much every Chevrolet made, in the last few years, has full time driving lights. How is that different than driving with parking lights on (in an FD of course since this is the 3rd gen tech section)?
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Sorry for the quick defense, but negativity is usually the response I get when I try to help. I jumped the gun.
I am not too sure on the reasoning behind the code. I imagine it has something to do with if your parking lights are on, other motorists can assume that you are not in motion. If you are driving around like that, it can mislead them. It might seem like common sense to the most of us, but remember most vehicle codes out there are to protect the ignorant and retarded.(hence seatbelt, headlight usage violations)![Big Grin](https://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
I am aware that a lot of new cars have daytime running lights now. But on these cars, the tailights and side markers are not lit like they would be if the parking lights are on.
Obviously this law isn't really inforced that much in present times. Remember though, that an Officer can use the violation to make a stop on the car/you. At that point he/she will have a better view to check out the rest of you car for other violations. That was the point of me bringing up this subject. Just trying to inform you guys so we quit getting the "****** A-hOLe cOP puLlED mE oVEr" threads. There are 3 every week in the West Section.
I am not too sure on the reasoning behind the code. I imagine it has something to do with if your parking lights are on, other motorists can assume that you are not in motion. If you are driving around like that, it can mislead them. It might seem like common sense to the most of us, but remember most vehicle codes out there are to protect the ignorant and retarded.(hence seatbelt, headlight usage violations)
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I am aware that a lot of new cars have daytime running lights now. But on these cars, the tailights and side markers are not lit like they would be if the parking lights are on.
Obviously this law isn't really inforced that much in present times. Remember though, that an Officer can use the violation to make a stop on the car/you. At that point he/she will have a better view to check out the rest of you car for other violations. That was the point of me bringing up this subject. Just trying to inform you guys so we quit getting the "****** A-hOLe cOP puLlED mE oVEr" threads. There are 3 every week in the West Section.
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Remember the life of a cop is not very exciting, even though T.V. and movies say otherwise. During slow times, Officers will look around for people with no front plates or other small violations so they can make a stop and possibly discover something bigger.(warrants, drugs, DUI).
There is ONE easy way to avoid stops like this. Have you car up to vehicle code so the Officer can't come up with a reason to pull you over. No 5'' HKS exhausts, no front plates, no tint on front windows...etc. It only makes sense to me, too bad 99% of car owners on this site can't fathom the notion of why they are getting hassled all the time by police.
There is ONE easy way to avoid stops like this. Have you car up to vehicle code so the Officer can't come up with a reason to pull you over. No 5'' HKS exhausts, no front plates, no tint on front windows...etc. It only makes sense to me, too bad 99% of car owners on this site can't fathom the notion of why they are getting hassled all the time by police.
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
It only makes sense to me, too bad 99% of car owners on this site can't fathom the notion of why they are getting hassled all the time by police.
I have been pulled over several times since I've owned this car, all for simply ridiculous reasons. By the way the cops typically acted once they had me pulled over, they knew they had no legitimate reason to pull me over, which is why I was not ticketed or even given an "official warning" for any behavior. Just the boiler plate lecture about driving safe and blah blah. BTW, out of those four or five times of being pulled over, never got a ticket for missing front plate OR running the parking lights.
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Meanwhile, every single day I see SUVs weaving in traffic at 85+ on the highway, people READING A NEWSPAPER on the highway, people with expired tags, people with deal tail lamps/lights, etc, etc. It gets frustrating some times, that's all.
EDIT: To soften my post, I do agree with you about some of the members here bitching about getting pulled over -- usually you can make out that there was indeed, some reason.
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
There is ONE easy way to avoid stops like this. Have you car up to vehicle code so the Officer can't come up with a reason to pull you over. No 5'' HKS exhausts, no front plates, no tint on front windows...etc. It only makes sense to me, too bad 99% of car owners on this site can't fathom the notion of why they are getting hassled all the time by police.
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Originally Posted by maxcooper
But people should be free to do all of those things without being subject to harassment. It's called freedom.
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I have a quick question for you Max... do you wear birkenstocks?
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Originally Posted by Fumanchu
I have a quick question for you Max... do you wear birkenstocks?
Do you blindly obey every law of the land? Do you know that oral sex is illegal in several states? Should people be harassed and prosecuted for having oral sex in those states? Would you stop having oral sex in those states? People blindly following laws without thinking are how people like Hitler do so much damage.
And we're only talking about small modifications and things on motor vehicles that don't present a threat or disturbance to anyone else. Front plate laws, for example, are a pure revenue scheme. How exactly does not having a front plate hurt anyone?
Going back to earlier, who the hell would think a moving car with parking lights on is standing still? It's a pointless law with no victims and any cop using it for an excuse to pull you over is an *******. I've NEVER seen anyone turn on parking lights to park their vehicle, which is what you are saying they are supposed to be used for. Hell, you're lucky to get a turn signal.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
A quick question for you...do you wear an SS or Swaztika badge on your shoulder?
Do you blindly obey every law of the land? Do you know that oral sex is illegal in several states? Should people be harassed and prosecuted for having oral sex in those states? Would you stop having oral sex in those states? People blindly following laws without thinking are how people like Hitler do so much damage.
And we're only talking about small modifications and things on motor vehicles that don't present a threat or disturbance to anyone else. Front plate laws, for example, are a pure revenue scheme. How exactly does not having a front plate hurt anyone?
Going back to earlier, who the hell would think a moving car with parking lights on is standing still? It's a pointless law with no victims and any cop using it for an excuse to pull you over is an *******. I've NEVER seen anyone turn on parking lights to park their vehicle, which is what you are saying they are supposed to be used for. Hell, you're lucky to get a turn signal.
Do you blindly obey every law of the land? Do you know that oral sex is illegal in several states? Should people be harassed and prosecuted for having oral sex in those states? Would you stop having oral sex in those states? People blindly following laws without thinking are how people like Hitler do so much damage.
And we're only talking about small modifications and things on motor vehicles that don't present a threat or disturbance to anyone else. Front plate laws, for example, are a pure revenue scheme. How exactly does not having a front plate hurt anyone?
Going back to earlier, who the hell would think a moving car with parking lights on is standing still? It's a pointless law with no victims and any cop using it for an excuse to pull you over is an *******. I've NEVER seen anyone turn on parking lights to park their vehicle, which is what you are saying they are supposed to be used for. Hell, you're lucky to get a turn signal.
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I AM JUST TRYING TO HELP YOU GUYS AVOID GETTING HARASSED BY THE POLICE, NOT ARGUE ABOUT LAWS AND THE MAN KEEPING YOU DOWN.
If you don't want my help, I am done. Try and find an officer on the streets that will gladly explain to you all of this stuff that I have on this forum. I bet there are plenty of them. Have a nice day oldtimers.
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Waddup peoples. I'm new to this forum so please feel free to criticize my input.
I removed my thermostat altogether and wired in a cockpit fan switch. I have an APEXi water temp gauge so I watch the water temps and switch on the fans 5 minutes before I shutdown the car. I shut it down at 60-65 degrees celsius and warm to atleast 50 before driving. Seems to work fine except warmup time is longer by a few minutes. Just a thought.
I removed my thermostat altogether and wired in a cockpit fan switch. I have an APEXi water temp gauge so I watch the water temps and switch on the fans 5 minutes before I shutdown the car. I shut it down at 60-65 degrees celsius and warm to atleast 50 before driving. Seems to work fine except warmup time is longer by a few minutes. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by CheesePowder
Waddup peoples. I'm new to this forum so please feel free to criticize my input.
I removed my thermostat altogether and wired in a cockpit fan switch. I have an APEXi water temp gauge so I watch the water temps and switch on the fans 5 minutes before I shutdown the car. I shut it down at 60-65 degrees celsius and warm to atleast 50 before driving. Seems to work fine except warmup time is longer by a few minutes. Just a thought.
I removed my thermostat altogether and wired in a cockpit fan switch. I have an APEXi water temp gauge so I watch the water temps and switch on the fans 5 minutes before I shutdown the car. I shut it down at 60-65 degrees celsius and warm to atleast 50 before driving. Seems to work fine except warmup time is longer by a few minutes. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
Don't completely remove the t-stat! It will actually hurt your temps because coolant will flow through the radiator too quickly for it to be cooled down properly. Put your t-stat back in. The car will actually cool better.
even when full out racing, mazdamotorsport recommend only "gutting" the thermostat to allow some restriction...
http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/weba...ubject=cooling
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It only makes sense to me, too bad 99% of car owners on this site can't fathom the notion of why they are getting hassled all the time by police.
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The tabs are obvioulsy *not* expired, but he proceeded to flash his lights on her as if she was a criminal, question her rudely and demanded for driver's license, proof of insurance, and registration. My friend has zero speeding tickets is 25 years old and was merely on her way home after work. The cop later indicated it was a 'computer error'
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