400 hp, to all the pros out there.
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Originally posted by Xeros
Any other suggestions out there?
Any other suggestions out there?
As you can see, there are many ways to get to your goal. Many suggestions have already been made, but you are going to have to do some research on your own to decide what setup will best suit you.
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Any other suggestions out there?
Such as what, man? It seems your expecting someone to come along with a cheap secret formula for 400 whp. Such a thing does not exist on these cars.
All options have been exhausted.
1. You can come close on stock twins, some have even achieved your goals on stock twins.
2. BNR upgrades are certainly capable of meeting your goals.
Both of the above scenarios can be run non-sequential if you dont want the rats nest for your yearly "overhaul."
3. Custom single turbo setup.. Good luck, most who take this route find themselves spending more than a kit. That is of course unless you have some really good connections.
4. Single turbo kit setup. Easily reach 400 hp, but have the checkbook handy.
A proper turbo setup really depends on what YOU want out of it. Sequential twins are capable of moderately high numbers with little to no lag. Upgraded twins even higher hp numbers. Nonsequential twins, and small to large single turbos can vary greatly, depending what power to spool lag ratio you find acceptable.
The bottom line is, you come across sounding completely ignorant in your inquiries. All this information (and so much more) is readily available, and personally I think you should educate yourself much more before taking on a project of this magnitude.
All options have been exhausted.
1. You can come close on stock twins, some have even achieved your goals on stock twins.
2. BNR upgrades are certainly capable of meeting your goals.
Both of the above scenarios can be run non-sequential if you dont want the rats nest for your yearly "overhaul."
3. Custom single turbo setup.. Good luck, most who take this route find themselves spending more than a kit. That is of course unless you have some really good connections.
4. Single turbo kit setup. Easily reach 400 hp, but have the checkbook handy.
A proper turbo setup really depends on what YOU want out of it. Sequential twins are capable of moderately high numbers with little to no lag. Upgraded twins even higher hp numbers. Nonsequential twins, and small to large single turbos can vary greatly, depending what power to spool lag ratio you find acceptable.
The bottom line is, you come across sounding completely ignorant in your inquiries. All this information (and so much more) is readily available, and personally I think you should educate yourself much more before taking on a project of this magnitude.
#30
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Originally posted by artguy
dont forget at least a thousand bucks for tuning...
see my mod list...but add in the 1600s and the rail to be safe as well as a larger pump MINIMUM.
cheers
j
dont forget at least a thousand bucks for tuning...
see my mod list...but add in the 1600s and the rail to be safe as well as a larger pump MINIMUM.
cheers
j
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suggestion: get your own brain
If you are so well connected, as you say. Why don't you use all of your great connections and do this research yourself. Your questions are very basic for any car that is being heavily modified. This doesn't add up as to why you do not know this already. I think it is because you are simply a novice who is trying to act a role whose shoes you can't fill.
Pay more attention to this thread and research on others. You obviously have a lot to learn. It is very apparent that you don't know much about what you are getting into. Do your own damn research and come back with more focused and learned questions.
Pay more attention to this thread and research on others. You obviously have a lot to learn. It is very apparent that you don't know much about what you are getting into. Do your own damn research and come back with more focused and learned questions.
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Re: suggestion: get your own brain
Originally posted by Garrett
If you are so well connected, as you say. Why don't you use all of your great connections and do this research yourself. Your questions are very basic for any car that is being heavily modified. This doesn't add up as to why you do not know this already. I think it is because you are simply a novice who is trying to act a role whose shoes you can't fill.
Pay more attention to this thread and research on others. You obviously have a lot to learn. It is very apparent that you don't know much about what you are getting into. Do your own damn research and come back with more focused and learned questions.
If you are so well connected, as you say. Why don't you use all of your great connections and do this research yourself. Your questions are very basic for any car that is being heavily modified. This doesn't add up as to why you do not know this already. I think it is because you are simply a novice who is trying to act a role whose shoes you can't fill.
Pay more attention to this thread and research on others. You obviously have a lot to learn. It is very apparent that you don't know much about what you are getting into. Do your own damn research and come back with more focused and learned questions.
Yes, his questions are very basic but can still pull some additional information to the forum that hasn't been covered before. Chances of that are slim, but what the hey!
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Originally posted by tomaszjc7
The upgraded stock twin will do you just fine, I cant stand all these people that think single is the only way to get massive power? Have you ever driven in a single turbo FD, do u have any idea what 18 to 20 pounds of boost on a singel turbo FD feels like!? Your ganna end up spending all this money on a car that is just ganna RAPE the road underneathe you when you can spend less money on a car that will fullfill all your speed crazed needs with upgraded twins.
The upgraded stock twin will do you just fine, I cant stand all these people that think single is the only way to get massive power? Have you ever driven in a single turbo FD, do u have any idea what 18 to 20 pounds of boost on a singel turbo FD feels like!? Your ganna end up spending all this money on a car that is just ganna RAPE the road underneathe you when you can spend less money on a car that will fullfill all your speed crazed needs with upgraded twins.
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Yeah, I'm sure those types of posts do backfire. I have seen quite a few that did. The anticipation is killing me.
I'm thinking I shouldn't have used the word "damn".
I'm thinking I shouldn't have used the word "damn".
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You say research through my connections, this a rotary car, and the people I know, don't really deal in anything more then 4 cylinder tunning, so I figure I would come "educate" myself here on the forum. This post was the same as going out to ask rotary professinal people, but getting all the responses off of one question for everyone and anyone that was intrested in putting in their own two cents of information on the subject. Yes I have the done the reseacrh on the forum and on other websites to see which turbo would suit me best. But I do not have the experience of knowing which turbo is best or how it might opperate. That is why I posted this question to see what people have to say about certain setups for a car and voice thier own personal experiences with the setups. And like the question was answered before, I did not find one solid answer becasue there are many diverse possibilities, and I think it would be easiest i people just spoke out ona favorite setup on one thread for future refrence as well. Withthe information and lists I was given, I can now also go back and do more reseaerch and compaire with other setups that I might not have considered before. Am I trying to fill some big shoes with this project? Yeah probably, so what? Have you ever ventured out of the box? So stop the hating and keep posting setups. Through these two pages alone I have already heard a lot of useful pros and cons n certain setups, so why not ask this question?
You say research through my connections, this a rotary car, and the people I know, don't really deal in anything more then 4 cylinder tunning, so I figure I would come "educate" myself here on the forum. This post was the same as going out to ask rotary professinal people, but getting all the responses off of one question for everyone and anyone that was intrested in putting in their own two cents of information on the subject. Yes I have the done the reseacrh on the forum and on other websites to see which turbo would suit me best. But I do not have the experience of knowing which turbo is best or how it might opperate. That is why I posted this question to see what people have to say about certain setups for a car and voice thier own personal experiences with the setups. And like the question was answered before, I did not find one solid answer becasue there are many diverse possibilities, and I think it would be easiest i people just spoke out ona favorite setup on one thread for future refrence as well. Withthe information and lists I was given, I can now also go back and do more reseaerch and compaire with other setups that I might not have considered before. Am I trying to fill some big shoes with this project? Yeah probably, so what? Have you ever ventured out of the box? So stop the hating and keep posting setups. Through these two pages alone I have already heard a lot of useful pros and cons n certain setups, so why not ask this question?
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The best kit i would go for 400hp but not the cheapest one is the RX6 single turbo kit by Apexi. It's one of the fastest spooling turbo out there and will give you the numbers you want.
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Originally posted by racer1
The best kit i would go for 400hp but not the cheapest one is the RX6 single turbo kit by Apexi. It's one of the fastest spooling turbo out there and will give you the numbers you want.
The best kit i would go for 400hp but not the cheapest one is the RX6 single turbo kit by Apexi. It's one of the fastest spooling turbo out there and will give you the numbers you want.
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Originally posted by alberto_mg
I've seen some people up in the 376rwhp range with stock twins...
I've seen some people up in the 376rwhp range with stock twins...
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Originally posted by Mahjik
IMO, the best suggestion is to do what Artguy has done. IMO, he has the best all-around setup on the forum.
IMO, the best suggestion is to do what Artguy has done. IMO, he has the best all-around setup on the forum.
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Originally posted by racer1
The best kit i would go for 400hp but not the cheapest one is the RX6 single turbo kit by Apexi. It's one of the fastest spooling turbo out there and will give you the numbers you want.
The best kit i would go for 400hp but not the cheapest one is the RX6 single turbo kit by Apexi. It's one of the fastest spooling turbo out there and will give you the numbers you want.
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Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Jason and I plan on going head-to-head to determine just that......
Jason and I plan on going head-to-head to determine just that......
I like the sequential turbo system and he has a dyno curve that I would love to have. Now, if you could have your setup, but in sequential, I might change my statement.
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Originally posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Speaking of which, when am I going to see your smiling face ?
Speaking of which, when am I going to see your smiling face ?
I didnt know you could see my smiling face when yer lookin at my tail lights!! HAHAHAAHAHHA
kidding...Ill probably get smoked.
soon I hope man...soon. Im up to my ears getting my new company www.massiveblack.com up and running. My car is still at my bros til our contracts are signed. If all goes well I should have my car in about thirty days. I will head up there as soon as I get it cuz it needs bushing work and some fine tuning.
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Originally posted by artguy
I didnt know you could see my smiling face when yer lookin at my tail lights!! HAHAHAAHAHHA
kidding...Ill probably get smoked.
soon I hope man...soon. Im up to my ears getting my new company www.massiveblack.com up and running. My car is still at my bros til our contracts are signed. If all goes well I should have my car in about thirty days. I will head up there as soon as I get it cuz it needs bushing work and some fine tuning.
j
I didnt know you could see my smiling face when yer lookin at my tail lights!! HAHAHAAHAHHA
kidding...Ill probably get smoked.
soon I hope man...soon. Im up to my ears getting my new company www.massiveblack.com up and running. My car is still at my bros til our contracts are signed. If all goes well I should have my car in about thirty days. I will head up there as soon as I get it cuz it needs bushing work and some fine tuning.
j
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Originally posted by Xeros
Any other suggestions out there?
Any other suggestions out there?
it all depends on what you want to do with it. if you are in the city then maybe lag is unnacceptable...even non seq lag....but if you do a lot of highway driving or straight line racing then perhaps the bnrs non seq or a single is best for you...you need to decide for yourself...what kind of car do you want to build.
my mod list adds up to almost thirty grand if you include labor and my mistakes early on. there is no cheap way out. when you hit that kind of power you will need many things or it is all lost to broken *****. hell you will barely be able to keep the tires on the road unless you get better rubber too.
tuning is everything.. EVERYTHING.
j