FDNewbie

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Lately, there are a TON of completely non-technical 3rd gen threads in the 3rd gen section...

- Tomorrow is the big day
- If you were to sell your FD...
- Peoples reactions after ridding in your FD
- Whats your make and model?
- Thinking about painting the inside of the doors/hatch (which should be in the interior/exterior/audio section)
- Post pics of your exhaust system..... (buyers guide) (should also be in the interior/exterior/audio section)
- Who's had their FD stolen?
- 0-100 Times
- etc. etc...
And that's just off of today's Page #1, at 6:45 pm only.
And that's ignoring the SAME questions being asked over and over, 1001 times over

Basically, the 3rd gen "Lounge" type threads are becoming more and more commonplace, obscuring the technical/troubleshooting threads. I'm NOT looking for an Advanced Tech section like before; just thinking maybe a 3rd Gen Lounge (aka Non-Technical) subforum may be very useful, this limiting the main 3rd Gen Section to Technical/Troubleshooting topics only (or visa versa; having the default = the lounge, and a subsection for the technical aspects only).

Is this too much to ask? Anyone else feel the same? Or am I just an organization freak?

~Ramy

rynberg

I haven't been on the forum to moderate much the last two weeks....don't worry, things will be going back to normal soon.

Authentikdit

Organization freak...Just kidding,you are right and it sounds like a good idea to me.

JHew84

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I don't think stricter moderation will help, Ramy is onto something here. I have felt the same way for awhile now with more and more of these lounge type threads popping up. Without another outlet for these, excuse my bluntness, rather stupid threads they will just keep popping up no matter how many you delete, lock or whatever. Having another forum will divert a lot of that traffic and give the people another outlet to go discuss what cars they should trade their FD for, or what your daily drivers are, etc etc.

I have stopped checking the tech forum as much as I used to because honestly the amount of useful information has rapidly decreased. And when I do check it, I find myself biting my lip so I don't say something offensive in one of the "other" less useful threads.

FDNewbie

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Rynberg, trust me, this wasn't an attempt to suckerpunch ya LOL. I just think this issue's been going on for much too long (months if not years). And it's getting pretty bad as of late.

BTW (off-topic), I emailed you back re: your request, but never got a response. Lemme know if you didn't get my response, and I'll resend it.



My point isn't to delete or inhibit the threads. Some things are 3rd-gen specific, but in a non-technical "lounge-like" way...but they wouldn't be appropriate in the general forum Lounge either (which consists of approx. 70,000 non-FD owners haha). I say give 'em their space to do what they want, but not at the expense of ppl getting their technical problems solved/addressed.

That's one of the worries I have... the gurus are participating less and less on this forum. And I've become increasingly disenchanted w/ the forum b/c of this. It's a shame. FD guru retention and the flow of usable/practical/applicable knowledge is paramount IMO.

~Ramy

PS: Before someone calls me out, yes, I myself just made a contribution to the 3rd gen "Lounge" type threads But I wouldn't hesitate to place that thread in the appropriate subsection if it existed...

JHew84

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, exactly. Just to clarify my post, I don't think they need to be inhibited either, I just don't see any other way of 'controlling' them if another forum wasn't created. Guru support is what makes this forum great, honestly I would be lost without them. The FAQ section and informative posts on this forum are far greater than any I have ever encountered, and it would be a shame if that kind of support started to decline.

Sgtblue

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I agree in principal with what Ramy's proposing. But is it possible that it could require MORE monitoring by the mods....not less?

RE-Amemiya

This sounds like a great idea to me.

yuichiror

iTrader: (1)

I like to post 3rd gen "lounge" info too, but a strictly technical section would be nice.

BTW, answer my IM's dude!!! How was first semester exams?

FDNewbie

iTrader: (10)

Yea that's what I'm proposing.

IMs? I don't remember seeing any? I don't have semester exams; I have exams per rotation. But Thank God, I cleared the first rotation (medicine). I have my next rotation's exam (psychiatry) on Tuesday!

dgeesaman

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As a 3rd gen forum mod, this is something I often think about I don't get much feedback - sometimes I'm told I 'overmoderate' and sometimes people ask for more strictness. Over the last couple weeks Tyler's not had much time to spend on the board, and I've been a little more laisse faire with moving threads - so I think Ramy you've noticed that effect. Is this better or worse than having 6 threads about full exhaust and going nonsequential? There's no right answer if you ask me. I usually strive for consistency.

This section, as I see it, is for discussions that are *specific* to 3rd gens only. Some of that is tech, some of that is non-tech, some of it is just chat. If it's a subject that doesn't have another home, I usually gets move it. If it's really non 3rd gen, it gets pushed to the Gen Auto or Lounge. Like that JDM parts discussion - doesn't that really apply to all imported cars, not just 3rd gens? Sometimes the visibility plays a role. We've been trying to keep a balance.

I ask that if there are subjects you (the user) moved out, to see where they go and consider adding them to your subscription list. Drop in every couple of days, and then these special-interest forums won't be as quiet.

I'd like to say it's a good idea to ask for popular opinion on how this forum should be moderated, but honestly I think that would not result in a fair picture of things. I'm not the only mod here, but if you want to send me your ideas I will try to consider your ideas. But in advance, I should warn I can't respond to all of them if my PM box gets flooded.

Dave

JHew84

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I said strict, not more. And I never made a comment on the amount of moderation needed for either scenario. But if you must know I think it would be easier moderation, this opinion coming from personal experience moderating another forum.

While I agree it is hard to please everyone, I think this would be an easy solution. Another complaint about the "lounge" threads I have is that when a maintance topic is posted these threads push it further and further down the list and it is less likely to be seen and addressed. This in turn hurts the people who are here to learn about the cars and are looking for help with a problem they are having. Having a dedicated tech forum is a must in my honest opinion and I was always under the impression that this forum was just that. I always thought the mods just kind of let some of the threads slide because they were fun and interesting, but lately (not just the past couple weeks) it has just been getting to be a little much. I guess I don't see the conflict of making a subforum for lounge type topics? or a seperate forum all together? Is this something that needs to be brought into greater discussion? i'm not sure, but I thought it was humerous that ramy posted this thread because I have felt the same way for awhile now.

FDNewbie

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JHew, you're right on the money. The difference was, when I was still learning the ropes, almost all of the 3rd gen section was technical threads. If there was an entertaining thread, it stayed at the top, and it was the only one for the week. Otherwise, all the threads were problem-related (or new solutions related). Then, as more of the younger crowd emerged, the number of "Check out pics of my FD!" threads skyrocketed. And I always took notice, b/c IMO, that was Interior/Exterior/Audio related material - material I'd like to look at, but that I felt was out of place in the 3rd gen section. Why? Because I was accustomed to it being technically-related (this was before Rynberg and Dave were mods...so the problem was inherited; definitely nothing to do w/ their moderating). And the threads have gotten less and less technically related with time, until currently, where the 3rd gen section = a 3rd gen lounge. That's what was getting to me, that's all. Obviously, I'd definitely love to see a subforum. And I think this is a MUCH less controversial suggesstion than say, the Newbie subforum I was proposing (and am still in favor of until today). But then again, all the picture threads in the 3rd gen section are drowning out the newbie questions, so it's less of a problem nowadays

turBRO240

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+1 on Ramy's suggestion.... a 3rd gen MISC/non techincal subsection would be AWSOME....

jic

iTrader: (1)

yes we know ramy..there are a lot of gay threads lately in the 3rd gen section

7_rocket

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Meh just dont read them.. Doesnt bother me.

scotty305

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First off, I don't think there have been as many 'dumb questions' lately. The FAQ thread seems to cover most of the basics now.


I do wish there were some more in-depth technical threads, but it seems that a lot of that has moved to the Single Turbo and Other Engine Swap forums. These cars have been around for a while now, so there aren't nearly as many 'new' ideas in the community. A lot of people just follow the path that others have already discovered.



dgeesaman, one of my favorite things is when someone asks a very redundant question, someone else just posts a link to the FAQ, and then a moderator closes the thread quickly before the rest of us can harass them too much. I'm always in favor of strict moderation with regards to redundant questions, threads that are WAY off-topic, and really dumb noobs, especially when they get rude.


-s-

FDNewbie

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Scotty, here was my take on that... I figured as much...

He said "really dumb noobs" Oh man... Scotty, you get 2 points for political correctness Oh and I like the quick threadlocking too...although it makes it difficult to post "IBTL!"

~Ramy

PS: I must admit, however, the forum has been quite boring w/o any of the 9+ page Jimlab vs. XXXX threads

jic

iTrader: (1)

where is jimlab btw?
havent seen him post round here for the longest time

dgeesaman

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https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...tpost&t=613804

FDNewbie

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Yea he seems to have come back outta the blue in the past few days. Man oh man I can't wait until a few of the noobs (who don't know what's coming at 'em) get into it w/ him, and don't realize what hit 'em

scotty305

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I'll be the first to say it...

jimlab for moderator!



Ramy (FDNewbie), if you want some more technical stuff, you can always start a new thread. I really liked your "what modern technology would you add to the FD" thread.

-s-

PS, I got to ride in an LS1-FD the other day, and it was really cool. The car felt very balanced and predictable.

Gorilla RE

iTrader: (1)

PS: I must admit, however, the forum has been quite boring w/o any of the 9+ page Jimlab vs. XXXX threads [/QUOTE]

haha i must agree with you on that one! they're always a good read!
-J-

DaleClark

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I think a non-tech section would be a great idea. There's plenty of topics that one wants to commiserate with other FD owners on that would be a little too specific for the Lounge itself.

As a forum guru, I approve this message .

Dale

Wrathritic

I think that is a great idea too.