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Old 12-10-03 | 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by saxyman990
Deep - you are not completely correct. The top speed of a *stock* FD is drag limited and somewhere between 155 and 160 (depending on who did the testing, and the conditions during the test). After that speed, the car does not have the power to go any faster.

However, as the car gets modified, power level increases, and that top speed is inheriently increased. Iif you can do more than 160 with a STOCK FD, then you must have the worlds most amazing stock rx-7 and you should call up guinness book of records.

Ron (the guy who started this thread) was talking about STOCK numbers. Not modified ones.
Actually I saw one car magazine get 165 out of a stock fd...It took second as a stock C4 corvette went 171.

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Old 12-10-03 | 08:47 PM
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in a race the weight would definatly matter, but also the tourque the ferrari has would compensate for the weight problem.
but i would have to say, if i had the money, a ferrari would be my choice. i love my fd, but a ferrari is a prestigous car that even its name is mentioned people start to drool. but if i had enough money to but a ferrari, id have an fd as well
Old 12-10-03 | 09:12 PM
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Mr rx-7 tt- Do you happen to know what magazine that was? I haven't seen that one. I do remember one test getting the car up to 161. But, like I said, the numbers all differ based on where you get your information and the conditions of the test.

So, since the range goes from 155 to 165, lets just split the difference and call it 160?
Old 12-10-03 | 09:28 PM
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My friend has that magazine. I am ALMOST sure it's an old Motortrend. I have the Motortrend when they named the R1 Car of the year and I also have it winning the best bang for the buck category. They also mention how it is a 160mph car so I think it IS Motortrend that clocked it a bit past 160mph.
Old 12-10-03 | 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by saxyman990
Mr rx-7 tt- Do you happen to know what magazine that was? I haven't seen that one. I do remember one test getting the car up to 161. But, like I said, the numbers all differ based on where you get your information and the conditions of the test.

So, since the range goes from 155 to 165, lets just split the difference and call it 160?
That's probably about right...
Old 12-10-03 | 11:30 PM
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As much as I love to recite the glowing praise that Motor Trend gave our beloved FD3S's please remember that their accolades are for sale to the highest bidder.
They even advertise that fact at their industry trade show booth. I've been there and seen it.

Every year.

There was a very dear price paid for that little sticker on the right front corner of my 93's windshield. Too bad it did not work out as planned.

Can we PLEASE get back on topic? This is about the "porkafication" of exotics.

Who the **** in their right mind would not rather have a Maranello?

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Old 12-11-03 | 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by RonKMiller
.....Can we PLEASE get back on topic? This is about the "porkafication" of exotics....
Ok....

What is so porky about a 2400lb Mclaren F1 with 600+hp ?
Old 12-11-03 | 12:20 AM
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doesn't the new mercedes/mclaren project weigh over 4500 pounds? i remember reading it had carbon fibre body panels or something of the sort. Which seemed strange although it was still so heavy
Old 12-11-03 | 12:20 AM
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Ok....

What is so porky about a 2400lb Mclaren F1 with 600+hp ?
Correction: I meant to say "affordable" exotics.

BTW, an F-16 has about the same power to weight ratio as the McClaren, but is much slower in the quarter mile. However the climb rate of 20,000 feet per minute straight up with the afterburners a-howlin' is rather impressive.

Now THAT'S exotic.
Old 12-11-03 | 12:45 AM
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The space shuttle, at about 172,000 lbs and with a total of 37,000,000 hp engines has a power to weigh ratio of about 215:1

A bit porky but its got the HP to back it up
Old 12-11-03 | 12:55 AM
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http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...ar.mv&num=1696

close to 3900 pounds
surely this counts as pork, but i doubt this is car is affordable
Old 12-11-03 | 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Rhode_Dog
doesn't the new mercedes/mclaren project weigh over 4500 pounds? i remember reading it had carbon fibre body panels or something of the sort. Which seemed strange although it was still so heavy
true, but thats not an all out sports car only. Although its engine is very similar to McLeran. It has the power and handling, BUT its also a daily driver sedan. You want to know why it weighs so much. I'll tell you why, INSANE body configuration. Look here:

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CAPE TOWN
McLaren supercar hit by VW Golf
Posted Wed, 19 Nov 2003

The new R4-million McLaren Mercedes Benz SLR, brought from Germany to Cape Town for an official launch, was hit by a VW Golf while being test driven in the city on Tuesday.

According to witnesses cited by the Cape Times, the Golf "sped through a red light" and hit the SLR, a left-hand drive, on the front right-hand side.

The Cape Times reports the 1700kg SLR, which is made of immensely strong carbon fibre and has intelligent crumple zones, sustained minimal damage. The Golf had to be towed away.

Eight SLRs are in Cape Town for the press launch at the V&A Waterfront’s Cape Grace Hotel on Wednesday. Around 140 international motoring journalists have been test driving the vehicle in the city, according to the daily.

The SLR, with a top speed of 334 kilometres per hour, has a supercharged Mercedez-enz AMG 5.5-litre V8, and takes 3.8 seconds to accelerate to 100 kilometres per hour.



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here is the article:
http://iafrica.com/news/sa/286419.htm
Old 12-11-03 | 12:36 PM
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now THAT's funny, right in front of a Lexus dealship, they must have loved that ! Or not, cause everybody went, **** the benz didn't take any damamge, where do I get one of THOSE ??




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