the bumper looks horrible but im sure it's like that for a reason.

The Jotech Verde Ithaca GTR in post 656 is an awesome car. I saw it at TX2K11 on the dyno and I forget the numbers, but IIRC it was the second highest powered GTR after AMS (1070). It's a gorgeous car too.

http://image.automotive.com/f/news/e...t_view.JPG.jpg





Can we end the thread now?



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Zonda R ugh.

Ascari A10 is superior in every measure of performance

http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-...a10_143905.htm

Looks wise, the Koenigsegg is the supreme king of all supercars in my book - the Zonda rerally does look like a batmobile in comparison

Meh...A10 may be superior to the Zonda F, but the Zonda R? The Zonda R lapped the Nurburgring in 6:47....24 seconds faster than the Gumpert Apollo, which was faster around Top Gears test track than the Ascari A10.

Yeah and what does the Zonda R cost? Keep dreaming....price points are completely different

This thread has gone awry anyway...it just needs to die. That was what I was trying to do...and I will keep dreaming.

These threads tend to spiral into fantasy land. Keeping the FD for now - only thing that is better all around (including less weight) for a reasonable cost is the Noble M400 or GT3. The EVO has not been mentioned much on this thread, but it gets an honorable mention, aside from its rice can looks

http://www.streetfire.net/video/evo8...ear_209523.htm

M400 is an awesome car

I agree on the swedish supercar. I fell in love with it when I first saw it on top gear years ago.

Would def pick it over the ascari or zonda, possibly over the veyron too, just cause its a manual.

The swedes did good. They made a great supercar and they create one of the finest women lol.... next to czech and hungary or course :)

As much as I like all the cars mentioned here, I have to admit, I'd probably want something I can drive in the city and not damage when I go over bumps.

http://www.theprayingmantis.org/imag...poulos-pic.jpg

With that said I'd trade my FD for that in heart beat lol..

Watch the Top Gear clip I posted on the Ascari.

Not only that.. Zonda R's aren't street legal.. Its in the same category as 787B... you could spend million plus to get it, but you can only use it on the track... with a group of guys to help you prep it.

I think this thread should of been, "If you give up your FD, what would you buy under $50K". Or at least more reasonable number vs. say 1 million + dollar cars.

Drove my 05 t-Rex for the first time today. Not saying it is for everyone but if you want pure driving excitement and don't care about practicality, it's one hell of a ride. I know it doesn't stack up on the track but it is the wildest thing I've ever been in on the street. Needless to say I'm satisfied.

Don't understand the latest three-wheeler fad at all, it's like people who are too chickenshit to ride a bike - pathetic

Let's race. I'll wheelie right over your head on the almighty ZX-10R.

T-rex's are sick!!

Any pics of yours??

I saw one on the highway last summer and the thing books like crazy.

*sigh*

:)

T-rex are awesome! post some pics..

T-rex are fun and different from a bike.. i rather have a t-rex over sports bike and this comes from a person who has owned 5 sports bike.

Let's race. My FD vs your ZX-10 :)

I would pay a lot of money to see that race. My money is on the triangles ;)

Gordon I hope you end up with one.


The NSX is my #1 choice. Honda was way ahead of their time building an aluminum monocoque when ferarri was still using steel. Ferrari had a lot to learn after then NSX came out. It's perfect NA, consider how many engines would be screwed up if they had a turbo and everybody was raising the boost. Honda hit the nail on the head and the resale values show that. I don't think there is a higher quality, more well rounded vehicle out there. If I can have two cars I'll keep my FD and find a well cared for NSX, if I only had room for one I would get an NSX. Yes it looks good, but it's so much more than that. There is nothing like a car that was at the cutting edge, and is actually reliable, looks great, unique, and is still in many ways at the cutting edge and probably better built than anything currently. Hard to beat unless you just want torque and straight line performance.

Parts are readily available. Intake, header and exhaust can net you roughly 280 whp. Add independant throttle bodies for another 50 whp.

400 whp can be done NA if you want to open the motor.

Why? The thing weighs 900 lbs (more than double the weight of a ZX-10 at 430) and is going to be nowhere near as nimble or quick. Don't understand them and never will, I'm a purist.

You might want to read this first. No car has ever given me any trouble whatsoever in the mountains.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...of_willow.html