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Old 08-10-01, 02:45 AM
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Best car polish and wax?

Just wondering what you guys use for your car. My baby is crying for some wax and Im not sure what is the best. Let me know.
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I bought this wax from www.autosupermart.com called BLITZ and it worked really nice. I have also used the Pebble Beach #1 sampler kit from ZYMOL and it was nice too. A lot of RX-7ers like Zaino Bros car polish.
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Meguiar's gold class, by far $15 for 1pt. .
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Zaino all the way.
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Waxing is dead!
Zaino is the only way to go. zainobros.com
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I've used Meguire's but I recently switched to Zaino and will never go back. Zaino shines like no other, is more lasting than any wax.

You can get it online at zainobros.com or email Sal for a list of his distributors. I picked up mine at a local distributor to save shipping.

It's probably the best polish you can buy and it only costs so little compared to Zymol and other high end polish. The bottles are small but you only use very little to make it work.
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Polish

The guy at my body shop told me that polish simply made the paint shine best but offered no real protection. He said the wax will wash off but will add more protection. What do you make of that?
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Re: Best car polish and wax?

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Just wondering what you guys use for your car. My baby is crying for some wax and Im not sure what is the best. Let me know.
Jeff
If your paint is at all neglected don’t just wax it.
Start with a clay. This will clean the paint and remove oxidation, stains, overspray, sap, gunk and other stuff.
Then, if needed, go with a polish / swirl remover to help get rid of scratches and swirls.
Next, apply a glaze. This will bring out the color and shine more since it actually fills in all the fine scratched and imperfections in the paint.
Then lastly go with a wax to protect what you spent so much damm time doing

I'd go with either McGuire’s or Mothers products, as they both have always worked well for me.
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All you guys that swear by Carnauba wax is becasue you have never used the polypropylene(something like) type eg Zaino, Turtle wax 2000 finsh, etc. I tried some last time I waxed my car becasue I use to use the meguirs stuff adn after 1 car wash teh shine and colour was gone. Meguirs is great for paint cleaner, clay etc. but after all done, forget teh polish and wax step and throw on some TW 2000. It last for like 12 car washes with still agreat shine. and they say it protects up to a year.
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Klasse All-In-One is a great product. As is Blitz. Pinnacle also makes good products.

Zaino is also a good choice, but it's a whole different animal. And I still suggest a polish and was prior to a Zaino coat. as a synthetic alone will lack the depth that a carnuaba can provide.

I think for probably the best shine, a coat of Klasse All-In-One followed by a couple layers of Pinnacle Souveran Wax or Paste Glaz.

There is definitely more to it then just a coat of polish and/or wax. You have to prep the surface and paint, etc.

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Since zaino is just a polish, don't you still need coat of wax on top? Or does the zaino handle that?
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Let see if we can get this straight. zaino is not a what most people would call a polish. It is a sealant. If the finish on you`r car is not in good shape don`t just put zaino on it. Start by claying and polishing with something like 3Ms Finesse-it II. Then start adding multiple coats of zaino. The depth and quality of the shine gets better and better as you add coats. And it is real easy to add coats. Much easier than carnauba waxes. And will out last wax by a long, long time. If you are still sold on waxes, then go to Griot`s Garage - www.griotsgarage.com They have the best tools and products for taking care of you`r car. They even have a special pad for machine claying you`r car.
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All and all my paint is good. I have some swirls though. Whats the best thing to just all around get the car looking top notch again. Also do you guys hand buff your use a buffer?
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... maybe I should wash my car sometime?
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Originally posted by capt. bill1
Let see if we can get this straight. zaino is not a what most people would call a polish. It is a sealant. If the finish on you`r car is not in good shape don`t just put zaino on it. Start by claying and polishing with something like 3Ms Finesse-it II. Then start adding multiple coats of zaino. The depth and quality of the shine gets better and better as you add coats. And it is real easy to add coats. Much easier than carnauba waxes. And will out last wax by a long, long time. If you are still sold on waxes, then go to Griot`s Garage - www.griotsgarage.com They have the best tools and products for taking care of you`r car. They even have a special pad for machine claying you`r car.
I'll start by saying that this is very good advice. Sealants like Zaino do protect your paint against everything from acid rain to sunlight. They do it better and longer than any wax I have tried. If you want shine that can blind then you might consider other products in addition to a sealant but remember this: WAX IS FOR CANDLES! I have been doing my own tests on waxes/sealants by waxing one half with one product then the other with something different. All the results are on my web site except for the details on the waxes. They were all pretty much the same in my book. I don't even test them anymore because it's not worth my time to say "hey, here is another wax that should be used for making candles."
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"WAX IS FOR CANDLES"

that's a pretty ignorant statement.
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"wax is for candles"

"that`s a pretty ingnorant statement." Really? Of the two I`d said you`rs is the ingnorant one.

And Mindphrame, use a slow speed buffer to polish. And use the correct pad.

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Originally posted by capt. bill1
"wax is for candles"

"that`s a pretty ingnorant statement." Really? Of the two I`d said you`rs is the ingnorant one.
lol..are you going to start a flame war over wax/synthetics?

The statement implies that carnuaba and parafin waxes are somehow the same.

Seems like a fairly misinformed statement to me.
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Originally posted by martini
"WAX IS FOR CANDLES"

that's a pretty ignorant statement.
Well I was just trying to add a little humor to my post. I'm sorry you didn't see that. I'm not saying waxes are bad, just not as good as sealants in my opinion and that all it is, my opinion. Take it for what it is worth and I guess that is zero worth for you. Again I am sorry....
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just go to griots garage and you will have all your questions answered... the only bad thing is you will think you need everything in the stupid catalog and spend WAY too much
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martini, here, have a comb.

You`r right bploz rx7, I go through half a bottle of hand lotion everytime I open their catalog up. The other half I use with the Snap On catalog.
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I personally don't use anything special on my RX. It's 8-9 years old now and the paint really shows. Although the prior owner took OK care of it, it was left outside during the winters (under a car cover). My pristine 94 Mustang GT on the other hand only gets the premium stuff. That was Mothers 3 step products from about 94-98. In 98, I discovered Zaino, and wow what a difference. With the Mothers products (cleaner, polish, bees wax), I'd have to do all 3 steps 3-4 times a year to keep the car lookin like it came out of the showroom. And it really really worked great for the first couple of years. By 98, the car started looking a little duller so I took the advice of some usenet news posters and tried Zaino. The first couple of times didn't seem to make much of a difference, then I spoke to a local Mustang guy who's got a 92 that looks unreal with stock paint. He gave me the following instructions and they literally make the car look completely new (actually it looks better than new).

1. Wash the car with Dawn dishwashing liquid. Dishwashing liquid have some special properties that strip old paint off your car. You'll know the difference right after washing/drying your car since if you slide your fingers over the paint it'll grab.

2. Use detail clay and a good deal of lubricant (such as Dawn and Water, I used this stuff BeadX which works well as a lubricant for the clay) to clean the paint. Clay will remove almost any stubborn tar/stains/birddroppings/etc from the paint without damaging it if you do it right. The main reason to use clay is to prepare it for polishing. Since polishing is slightly abrasive, you don't want to polish with stuff still on the paint.

3. Use a high quality polish on the now clean paint. 3M makes some of the best polishes around. The stuff ain't too expensive either. I use an orbital random Sears special electric polisher with a foam pad. It's important to let the polisher do the work for you. Do not put any additional weight on the polisher as you'll likely burn through the clear coat. When you remove the polish, the car will look pretty amazing, it's now time to seal the paint so that it won't look crummy in a couple of days. The main point here is that Zaino alone won't really do squat to make your paint look deeper/richer, it's steps 1-3 that really make the car stand out. Zaino seals that "finish" and lasts a long time to boot.

4. Use Zaino, I do it by hand. My formula is only 4 layers Z1-Z5 --> remove --> Z6 --> remove --> Z2 remove.

I was amazed with the results. And the sealant lasts 2-3 times as long as bees wax. Also this only needs to be done once a season. The rest of the year is just washing (every month or so), and Zaino (every two or three months).

Unfortunately as I mentioned, this will not work for my RX. I tried the clay on polish on my car, but they did not get the paint into the condition that I wanted (too many swirls and pits in the paint to begin with), so I use whatever I can find conveniently (right now it's a free bottle of Formula 113 I got, but I've used the Turtle Wax Zymol and Meguiars on it as well). So while Zaino is great if you're cars finish is in good condition to begin with, I wouldn't recommend it if you're cars finish looks 8-9 years old since it's really only a sealant and what you'd be doing is sealing a car that looks 8-9 years old.
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