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Old 12-21-02, 01:58 PM
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Fact: Based on about a dozen posts above a stock WRX will run 13.8 - 14.4
We can debate all we want on what any car is going to run, that doesn't change what it truly does run though. I have yet to see a wrx break into the 13's BONE stock. I'm sure it's happened, but it's not the norm. Like I've said most wrx's I've seen have run low-mid 14's.

Fact: With the mods on his RX-7 he should be running 13.7-14.5
I just have TID and a 3''DP/MP and I ran a 13.8 with a 2.25 60' time! I think it's fair to say he's got 13's on lockdown. If he runs mid 14's with that set up something is really wrong.
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hmm theres a wrx near my place fast as hell i know for sure its not stock because of how the damn thing handles and when the guy floors it looks like it could beat a new viper like nothing lol that and its got a huge FMIC scares me alot but im thinking my N/A can beat it with a HUGE shot of nitrous
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You DO need Nos! Two of the big ones! Ok that was overkill. What I said above still stands true then.
Have fun beating the WRX, they are cool cars.
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okay well for one, yeah it's messed up that the kid is talking smack. i think anyone that just starts talking smack needs to get smoked!!!

but as for the race itself. i'd say, hope the kid doesn't know how to launch. with an awd car, you can redline it, dump the clutch and not break traction. awd kills outta the hole. and then you gotta play catchup to try and win. if the kid doesn't know he can launch at insane rpm's then i'm sure you'll get him easy. but if he does, well, you may get him but may be near the end of the race. just try not to break traction off the line. it can be a close race, or it can be a blow out depending on who can drive and who can't.

an fc with exhaust and intake would have about what, 250 horsepower? that correct? a wrx has 227 with awd. so if you launch bad, he could have a big enough lead on ya to where you'd barely get him in the end. let us know the results.
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EVO's are so amazingly cool. There is a guy down by the wrecking yards here in sacramento that has a brand new Lancer EVO (he has had it for probably 5 months now since thats when i first saw it)

I pulled up next to him and gave him a thumbs up and asked how the hell he got one. He smiled and said that he had it imported early. I asked him how fast it is, and he said "not sure yet, i want to break it in properly". That car just oozed badass, and if you cant see the FMIC on that car you must be blind because its huge. Soon WRX's arent going to be what people worry about, EVOS will be the new standard.

Good luck on beating that guy, it really is all about the driver. I know many people that have the horsepower in there cars to easily run low 12's, but they havent learned to correctly drive it/launch it yet and thus run high 13's. I must say though, WRX's are fast off the line, ive raced them before. Passed them in 3rd and then it was all over, but they sure can get going from a dead stop!
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Cut the Bs and just go race him. Whos taking bets? 10 bucks says he beats him to 100. And remember dark did the conversion, so its a light car! **** my car weighs 2550. WRX are over-rated.
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Originally posted by 1Revvin7
Cut the Bs and just go race him. Whos taking bets? 10 bucks says he beats him to 100. And remember dark did the conversion, so its a light car! **** my car weighs 2550. WRX are over-rated.
Damn right, im with this guy, bring it to that little rich focker. Id bet he couldnt launch for **** or shift MaD QuIk Yo!!!!! Ill put down 10
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stock WRX's DO put out about 165 to the wheels but you're talking about an AWD dyno which measures differently than a 2WD dyno. remember, that 165 = 227 at the flywheel. I've raced a stock WRX wagon (against my brother driving) and he was surprised at how I kept up...he only had 1/2 car length on me through the top of third gear and my RX-7 is still an NA. stock WRX wagons will pull a 14.4 - 14.8 and my rex has gone 14.9 at the track (w/ a LOT of practice). stock WRX sedans will NOT pull any 13 stock, intakes do nothing for the car (nothing you can feel) and real power is from the up-pipe and turbo-back exhaust
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Originally posted by jon88se
stock WRX's DO put out about 165 to the wheels but you're talking about an AWD dyno which measures differently than a 2WD dyno. remember, that 165 = 227 at the flywheel. I've raced a stock WRX wagon (against my brother driving) and he was surprised at how I kept up...he only had 1/2 car length on me through the top of third gear and my RX-7 is still an NA. stock WRX wagons will pull a 14.4 - 14.8 and my rex has gone 14.9 at the track (w/ a LOT of practice). stock WRX sedans will NOT pull any 13 stock, intakes do nothing for the car (nothing you can feel) and real power is from the up-pipe and turbo-back exhaust

if the driver knows how to drive, a WRX with just an MBC can hit mid 13s..


But ALL of it is mostly made up on the launch.. and i don't mean side steping the clutch at 6K..

A stock WRX can pull a 1.7 60 foot time..

And 165AWHP is a little low on a WRX, mine stock did 176AWHP and that was just after breaking in the engine, so it should have gained a few more hp too.

BTW that was in about mid-60* weather..


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I have a WRX that I race... Does that count?

Stock, they're mid to low 14s, usually mid 14s. They're very difficult to launch to get that low 14s number. They're also dead at highway speeds.

Stock, with the right driver, they'll do 0-60 as low as 5.4. It happens, but expected closer to 6 seconds from your average driver.

Be careful of even a slightly modified one, though. Less than a grand into it (basically, a remapped ECU) and the car will run 13.1s, 13.2s and do 0-60 in the high 4s range. Mine looks almost completely stock, very quiet at idle, but it does 0-60 in 4.3s, and will take just about anything off the line. It's also much faster on the highway, as the exhaust has been seriously opened up.

As for wheel hp, keep in mind two things. One, AWD aren't as consistent as 2WD dynos. I don't know why, but its a trend I've noticed. Two, if a WRX (or any AWD car) makes 160 whp, it's too all four wheels, and can't really be compared to a 180 whp reading in a 2WD car.

Lastly, remember the torque difference. When you look at a WRX, remember its over 3000 lbs. Its not the 227 hp that makes it go, it's the 217 lbs of torque. In my case, its the 300 lbs of torque.

I just figured I'd throw in my two cents, since I own a WRX and have gotten a lot of time to play with it. I tried to be subjective, since I don't know as much about RX-7s, and just put down facts. Hopefully, over the summer, once my RX-7 is running how I want it to be, I can post a side by side of the two.


Originally posted by 600HP CLUB
u give basing everything on magazines, have anyone actually raced one? i have, i lauch good a 5k rpm, i don't know about him but he had me first and second but third was my gear, i wasn't racing in my 87T2 RX-7 but my friend 1989 TurboII, full exhaust n1,k&N filter,mbc,fuel pump. (i think that's about it) isn't modded much, no back interrior, no emmissions, tb mod.

at searspoint, i see alot of 14.8s wrx the lowest i saw was 13.5 and he was well equiped - i saw a intercooler don't know about the rest. But it's all about SKILLS. WRX AND RX-7 pretty much the same, just we're a little bit lighter, WRX puts out about 160 something to the wheels, no lie, i've seen dyno graphs of intake and exhaust wrxs, with intake and down pipe on an RX-7 u should reach near 180 or so horsepower with the extra boost ur making.

if u really scared, take out rear stuff, ie boxes, spare, etc.

forgot, sometimes the weather can make or break u,
hot days turbo will not be as good as cold days, all WRX at the track and dyno was on hot days..
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