Why does everyone LOVE double pulley?
#51
Double Alternator Pulley > *
It's cheap, it's effective. You can go to nearly ANY auto parts store and grab two new alternator belts. (I haven't found a shop that didn't stock them here.) It's simple, fast, and it's not a $300 set of pulleys and funky *** belts just to drive your god damned alternator and water pump, nor is it a special belt that you have to force onto your pulley with a pry bar. Common guys. Not to mention, the double pulley doesn't introduce un-needed pressure on your water pump, and you can adjust it.
This has all been said countless times before.
If you want to be cheap, grab the yoohoo belt.
I prefer to do things right though.
It's cheap, it's effective. You can go to nearly ANY auto parts store and grab two new alternator belts. (I haven't found a shop that didn't stock them here.) It's simple, fast, and it's not a $300 set of pulleys and funky *** belts just to drive your god damned alternator and water pump, nor is it a special belt that you have to force onto your pulley with a pry bar. Common guys. Not to mention, the double pulley doesn't introduce un-needed pressure on your water pump, and you can adjust it.
This has all been said countless times before.
If you want to be cheap, grab the yoohoo belt.
I prefer to do things right though.
#52
well I know their not indestructible, and yes stuff can happen but if you take care of your car and install things properly you eliminate a lot of problems. Ive goten better throttle response, increased amperage at idle and higher, and lower coolant temps. I'm not trying to start a big negative discussion, but just wanted to see if there was a good reason for double pulley as apposed to yoohoo belt.
I mentioned it in my previous post, but here is my belt set-up. Not a 1/2 hour thing thats for sure, but if you want ribbed belts and AC this is how I went.
This would be something you would probably do if you have the engine out of the car and your rebuilding things as its too much trouble just to change the belt style.
This would be something you would probably do if you have the engine out of the car and your rebuilding things as its too much trouble just to change the belt style.
You, me and Rob XX 7 are oddities apparently
#54
I'm actually considering that option. I need a bigass alternator for the E-fan/electrical system I have planned out. (Complete in-dash touchscreen to manage my future Haltech). Routing the Alt to the AC location, and hiding it with intercooler piping would look badass.
#55
I don't think you need as big an *** alternator as you think. Check out Jackhilds 130Amp Alternator sweetness thread for some good tips on properly choosing and driving an alternator. I think with some actual testing you'll find that you won't need nearly as big of an alt as you think you will. At least that's been my experience
#56
I ordered a yoohoo belt from pineapple and it was way too small. So I went to napa and got the same style gates belt just a size bigger and it fit perfect. It went on easy and my coolant pump doesn't slip any more.
The yoohoo belt has so much contact it doesn't need to be tight. The principle is the same with the duel belt verses the yoohoo belt idea. Get more belt contact on the water pump pulley so it doesn't slip. The yoohoo belt better achieves this by wrapping around the pulley instead of one inch on one side.
And on the comment about pump bearing wear. You can't wear a bearing if the bearing is not moving. You can damage a bearing when it is not moving though. The yoohoo belt will acually help save your water pump bearing by helping to center the load on the bearing.
The yoohoo belt has so much contact it doesn't need to be tight. The principle is the same with the duel belt verses the yoohoo belt idea. Get more belt contact on the water pump pulley so it doesn't slip. The yoohoo belt better achieves this by wrapping around the pulley instead of one inch on one side.
And on the comment about pump bearing wear. You can't wear a bearing if the bearing is not moving. You can damage a bearing when it is not moving though. The yoohoo belt will acually help save your water pump bearing by helping to center the load on the bearing.
Last edited by camman; 11-13-08 at 12:14 AM.
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#58
How do you know it doesn't slip anymore? Do you sit there and count the revolutions @ WOT under load? That's a pretty boastful claim.
#59
I'll check into it. I wasn't thinking more than 120amp though.. Finding a nice FD spec alternator would make me comfortable enough. That and a optima yellow top.
It's not like I'll be running a huge audio system. I plan on keeping about 4 small speakers and a single small sub somewhere, with a mild amp. My concern was the computer (running in sleep mode when the car's off) and a bright backlit touch screen in the center console.
It's not like I'll be running a huge audio system. I plan on keeping about 4 small speakers and a single small sub somewhere, with a mild amp. My concern was the computer (running in sleep mode when the car's off) and a bright backlit touch screen in the center console.
I don't think you need as big an *** alternator as you think. Check out Jackhilds 130Amp Alternator sweetness thread for some good tips on properly choosing and driving an alternator. I think with some actual testing you'll find that you won't need nearly as big of an alt as you think you will. At least that's been my experience
#60
I doubt the touchscreen will draw that many amps. My AIM dash pulls like 3A or something like that. The 4 LS2 coils though are good for about 20A, and the Motec asks for a 20A fuse as well. But, you're losing the factory comp which in all honesty is about the same draw wise.
Check out Jack's thread. Alot of good info about actually testing how many amps your car will need
Check out Jack's thread. Alot of good info about actually testing how many amps your car will need
#65
TitaniumTT_ thanks for the compliments, it was a combined effort and alot of "what if we try this or that" to get it all working.
I have checked out some of your fabrication threads and you definitly dont cut corners and you also tend to overthink things a bit too- its a sickness for some of us!
I have checked out some of your fabrication threads and you definitly dont cut corners and you also tend to overthink things a bit too- its a sickness for some of us!
#66
TitaniumTT_ thanks for the compliments, it was a combined effort and alot of "what if we try this or that" to get it all working.
I have checked out some of your fabrication threads and you definitly dont cut corners and you also tend to overthink things a bit too- its a sickness for some of us!
I have checked out some of your fabrication threads and you definitly dont cut corners and you also tend to overthink things a bit too- its a sickness for some of us!
Again, well done.
#67
No I don't count the rpm of the pulley. With the yoohoo belt all the "symptoms" of belt slip are gone. Think of a yoohoo belt as wider tires. the more tire in contact to the ground the more traction you have. It is the same thing with a duel alt pulley except the yoohoo has more contact with only slightly less tension. don't for get the factory alternator belt is still in contact with the coolant pump and it's tension is adjustable.
#69
The one thing i think is funny from pineapples site is how they talk about the fact that if the alt belt broke you could still turn the water pump which could be important to get yourself to the next exit or rest area and then right under that it says this product intended for off road use only....
#70
The one thing i think is funny from pineapples site is how they talk about the fact that if the alt belt broke you could still turn the water pump which could be important to get yourself to the next exit or rest area and then right under that it says this product intended for off road use only....