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Old 03-10-02 | 12:09 PM
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where to source parts for a DIY manual boost controller?

I have asked this before, but didnt get any real awnsers. Preferably a link to a sight online to find it/them. Does ANYONE know? Thanx
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Old 03-10-02 | 02:44 PM
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Why don't you just go to a hydraulic/pnuematic supplier like I suggested? This sort of product is generally sold to industry, not net-heads, so there's no need for them to sell from websites. Check the yellow pages, "let your fingers do the walking."
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Because ther are 600,345,85 different kinds of valves out there and I dont want the wrong one. Nobody saved a link?
Old 03-10-02 | 06:00 PM
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This is as close as I could come: http://www.teamfc3s.org/info/articles/blowoff.html probably not what you want, but what if it is.
Old 03-10-02 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by boostmotorsport
Because ther are 600,345,85 different kinds of valves out there and I dont want the wrong one
Trust me, the stuff you need is so common, you won't have a problem getting it. If you're building a simple bleeder system all you need is a ¼" ball valve, a ¼" multi-turn needle valve, a ¼" T piece, about 3m of ¼" fuel hose and 9 hose clamps. Repeat that list at a shop and that's exactly what you'll get. Here's a link on how to build it:
DIY bleeder boost controller
Here's another article by the same author detailing an even better way of doing it:
DIY boost controller, part 1
DIY boost controller, part 2
Old 03-10-02 | 06:32 PM
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Cool, thanx
Old 03-10-02 | 09:06 PM
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One problem, NZC: the part #s in the "good" DIY controller are no longer correct, and it appears that nether Norgrom nor Metal Work are interested in helping me find the "correct" parts, as their websites are both terrible.

IMO, this is an instance where one does NOT want to cheap out and use aquarium supply store parts - if your regulator doesn't react fast enough, you'll spike BIG. Bye-bye engine.

I'm currently working on getting a reliable source for the parts, and possibly selling them as a preconstructed unit. I'll keep you all posted...

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Old 03-10-02 | 09:21 PM
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One problem, NZC: the part #s in the "good" DIY controller are no longer correct, and it appears that nether Norgrom nor Metal Work are interested in helping me find the "correct" parts, as their websites are both terrible
No offence to anyone here, but you and boostmotorsport are suffering from the same problem: relying too much on the internet. Pick the phone and ring them, they'll probably be quite helpful! Besides, companies like Norgren are suppliers, not retailers. Web sales are of little interest to them. Call a company that sells their product.
Old 03-10-02 | 09:59 PM
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No offence to anyone here, but you and boostmotorsport are suffering from the same problem: relying too much on the internet. Pick the phone and ring them, they'll probably be quite helpful! Besides, companies like Norgren are suppliers, not retailers. Web sales are of little interest to them. Call a company that sells their product.
No offense taken, but I make my living "on the internet". If a company offers an avenue by which to contact them, they should be just as responsive to that avenue as any other, else they should offer no such option.

I also resent having to spend my dime to call them so I can give them some of my money - offer a toll-free number for cryin' out loud! Argh.

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Old 03-10-02 | 10:33 PM
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...but I make my living "on the internet"
Yeah, but not many others do. I understand where you're coming from, but the fact is the industry you're trying to contact does a large proportion of their business direct with companies that probably order often and in quantity. That sort of thing just isn't done over the 'net. Just one of those things...
But I still can't understand why you don't just get in the car and drive to a place that sells this sort of stuff. That's what I did!
Old 03-10-02 | 11:54 PM
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NZ-I dont suffer from any prblems, I just asked for a link. After working all week its easier to type in my underwear at 11 PM than to go to a pneumatic supplier during business hours. Eventually few people will go anywhere to purchase a product.
Old 03-11-02 | 08:31 AM
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But I still can't understand why you don't just get in the car and drive to a place that sells this sort of stuff. That's what I did!
Because the nearest place is ~3hrs away! I am not going to drive 3 hrs to get high-quality components when I should be able to get them via the internet (c.f. my prev post).

Oh well...

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Old 03-11-02 | 12:58 PM
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which one do we build the first one or the second one? I think the second right?
Old 04-02-02 | 06:34 PM
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did any of you get the correct part #?
Old 04-02-02 | 07:01 PM
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Go to http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/perform/grainger.htm

This boost controller is the same type that is sold on the internet all over the place (dawes devices etc).. I've built a few and they work great.. better then using a silly bleed... The parts are readily availible and that web page even has all the parts #'s you need...

Hmm.. now I wonder how many people are going to end up taking these plans and start selling boost controllers on ebay etc... Just a little rant.. I hate people who take things off the net that is posted freely and then try and profit from someone elses work.. Some examples I have seen:

#1 - This very same controller..tons of people on ebay buy the parts, and sell them to unsuspecting people who don't realize the plans are out there and the parts are easily purchased.. so much for shareing information..

#2 - When you open vent the stock BOV on our cars and on eagle talons as well, you need to put a checkvalve on the end of it to keep it from leaking into athmosphere.. the best method to do this is to buy a brass checkvalve from homedepot.. I've seen a few people purchase the same checkvalves, spray paint them, drill holes to make them look all pretty and sell them on ebay for hughe profits.. lame..

#3 - Some moron has gone and downloaded all the service manuals for the diffrent generations of rx-7's .. all of these manuals were made freely availible by the hard work of several people (scott89t2 recently spent alot of time scanning his manual and converting to pdf).. now some idiot downloads them and burns them to cd and starts selling them on Ebay.. no credit to the people who did the actual work.. I hope he gets trampled by a moose...

#4 - another guy on ebay took a FC shifter, cut down the shifter to make it shorter then put it up for bids on ebay as a short throw shifter .. When bids got over $100 on this stupid item I had to do something about it.. I just emailed the high bidder and informed him of what he was actually getting .. hopefully the moron didn't end up selling the thing..

There are many more examples out there of people making a quick buck by screwing others.. grrrr.. okay.. rant off..
Old 04-02-02 | 07:48 PM
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Chris, this work on a similar principle to the one I posted above, but I prefer that one beacuse I think the two valves make the sytmem more precise, plus there's no drilling/cutting/epoxying of parts, you just clamp it all together!
I totally agree about trying to make a buck by selling other people's simple ideas for profit. It's not just on the internet either. Pneumatic boost controllers are a good example. You can buy quite expensive namebrand bleeder type controllers that are nothing more than a few cheap commonly available components. Some add a solenoid valve (again, cheap and easy to get), call it "switchable" and you can double the price! Same goes for $100 electronic modules that consist of $10 of components and a design available in an electronics handbook! But I guess that's marketing for ya...
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