where does this hose go?
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I'm pretty sure it was originally hooked up to the airpump, which the FSM says is hooked up to something else. I believe it is called the check valve and the FSM says it hooks up to the rear of the intake manifold, where, I have no idea.
oh yeah, I have a 88SE
oh yeah, I have a 88SE
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thats going to hook up to the OUT of your ACV. should be on the mid or lower intake manifold facing the passenger side.
i havent dealt with the ACV much (or at all) since mine is gone, but its between the smog pump and air pipe (which your hose is currently connected to).
i havent dealt with the ACV much (or at all) since mine is gone, but its between the smog pump and air pipe (which your hose is currently connected to).
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Originally Posted by Kingofl337
looks like the 6-port actuator house to me.
It is definitely not the hose for the 6-port actuation, although the hose for the 6 pump acuation is attached to that split air hard pipe.
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Originally Posted by casio
thats going to hook up to the OUT of your ACV. should be on the mid or lower intake manifold facing the passenger side.
i havent dealt with the ACV much (or at all) since mine is gone, but its between the smog pump and air pipe (which your hose is currently connected to).
i havent dealt with the ACV much (or at all) since mine is gone, but its between the smog pump and air pipe (which your hose is currently connected to).
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damn. HAILERS would likely be able to explain this well.
i admit, i should have said "i believe" in front of that; i apologise.
when i had mine hooked up, it was air pump straight to the split air pipe since i have no ACV. HAILERS was telling me how important he feels the ACV is. unfortunately, i have never dealt with it.
i admit, i should have said "i believe" in front of that; i apologise.
when i had mine hooked up, it was air pump straight to the split air pipe since i have no ACV. HAILERS was telling me how important he feels the ACV is. unfortunately, i have never dealt with it.
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Originally Posted by The Spyder
Look closer behind the block, it was setup like that to pass emissions. The red hose is running directly from the air pump to the cat. split air pipe.
anyways, the air from the air pump to the cat is NOT direct. that would imply the air pump is constantly feeding the cat air which isnt true. also, this will not work. the split air pipe and the air pump are different diameters. if it were direct, they'd be the same so a single hose could be used which is not the case.
i cant tell if thats what you're saying, but i wanted to make that clear for the poster. i read your post more than once and stil couldn't decipher it.
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It was my car and I did that.
The split air pipe (circled in green) goes to the loose black hose I believe I left hanging right behind the block. After you reconnect it properly, completly remove the red hose. Re connect the air pump into the ACV (the open nipple on the right hand side of it).
The split air pipe (circled in green) goes to the loose black hose I believe I left hanging right behind the block. After you reconnect it properly, completly remove the red hose. Re connect the air pump into the ACV (the open nipple on the right hand side of it).
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Originally Posted by The Spyder
It was my car and I did that.
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
It's too dark for hailers to see just what hose is being talked about. Maybe put the light at another angle so we can see the hose better????????
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I thought about just pming ya spyder but I figured someone would just take a picture and I'd be done with it. I'll go looking for that loose hose tomorow when it's warmer and lighter.
I know i need the acv for the 5/6 ports, but do I need the airpump?
I know i need the acv for the 5/6 ports, but do I need the airpump?
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Originally Posted by casio
heh, makes more sense. i did that as well. it doesnt work the same apparently. HAILERS strongly believes its necessary for the air to pass through the block and out the exhaust (via the small holes in the exhaust sleeve). i never completely understood this.
Got me. My belief is...............the catalytic converter is most effiecient when the mixture in the exaust fumes, is at approx 14.7.
If one has a wideband, he will see that if he disables the ACV and the airpump air gets dumped overboard instead of being sent to the normal route to the exaust ports, that the AFR shown on the wideband will be in the high 12AFR to low 13AFR.
If he re-enables the ACV and the airpump, he will see a figure close to 14.7AFR.
You don't need a wideband to see this trait. Just a meter connected to the O2 sensors output will show the same results. Usually I used to see 0.1v(Lean) using a meter on the 02 when the airpump/acv was intact and working. If I just pulled the Blue connector off the Relief Solenoid which disables the acv and dumps the air overboard.....then the 02 sensor would read in the 0.7v or so range i.e. rich.
I read this theory/idea, somewhere, sometime, once upon a time.
And while I'm here.......if this car is a series four, the auxillary ports are operated from exaust pressure from the catalytic converter. The air pump has squat to do with the actuation. If you think that the airpump activates the aux ports, remember or know this............at 3800 rpm the Relief Solenoid disables the Relief valve inside the acv and dumps the airpump air overboard into the silencer in the right fender. Only a amemic amount of air goes to the Split Air Pipe while driving. Now take into consideration that the aux ports open at approx five grand. See what I mean? It's the exaust pressure From the Catalytic Converter/exaust that opens a SERIES FOUR. That is NOT the case for SERIES Five cars. Their aux ports are driven from air from the airpump. There is a pickoff line from the airpump discharge line that goes first to a solenoid then to the aux ports to open them. The solenoid is scheduled from the ECU by putting a ground/not putting a ground on that solenoid. It depends on load and rpm to schedule the opening/closiing of the solenoid.
In the picture I couldn't tell if the red hose was a aftermarket water hose routed different than stock (for the heater) or something else.
JUST IN CASE: I don't doubt folk can pass emissions by feeding the airpump air to the catalytic converter. No doubt at all. I don't think it would work as a permanent installation though. I'm guessing the cat would go **** up after a few months. Just guessing.
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Think about this......the 02 sensor is b/t the exaust ports and the catalytic converter. You have the air going to the catalytic converter itself. The 02 sensor is seeing a mixture at 13afr while you are on the emissions test bed and the car is at 1500 to 2100rpm. The 02 sensor is IN THE LOOP. Heck. You'all must be right to some degree. The ECU must be trying its *** off to make the engine run leaner. Or am I confused again??????????
I think I'll continue to just connect everything up per FSM once a year to pass emissions. It works for me each and everytime. Welllllll....three times a year. Three cars.
I think I'll continue to just connect everything up per FSM once a year to pass emissions. It works for me each and everytime. Welllllll....three times a year. Three cars.
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
Got me. My belief is...............the catalytic converter is most effiecient when the mixture in the exaust fumes, is at approx 14.7.
If one has a wideband, he will see that if he disables the ACV and the airpump air gets dumped overboard instead of being sent to the normal route to the exaust ports, that the AFR shown on the wideband will be in the high 12AFR to low 13AFR.
If he re-enables the ACV and the airpump, he will see a figure close to 14.7AFR.
You don't need a wideband to see this trait. Just a meter connected to the O2 sensors output will show the same results. Usually I used to see 0.1v(Lean) using a meter on the 02 when the airpump/acv was intact and working. If I just pulled the Blue connector off the Relief Solenoid which disables the acv and dumps the air overboard.....then the 02 sensor would read in the 0.7v or so range i.e. rich.
I read this theory/idea, somewhere, sometime, once upon a time.
If one has a wideband, he will see that if he disables the ACV and the airpump air gets dumped overboard instead of being sent to the normal route to the exaust ports, that the AFR shown on the wideband will be in the high 12AFR to low 13AFR.
If he re-enables the ACV and the airpump, he will see a figure close to 14.7AFR.
You don't need a wideband to see this trait. Just a meter connected to the O2 sensors output will show the same results. Usually I used to see 0.1v(Lean) using a meter on the 02 when the airpump/acv was intact and working. If I just pulled the Blue connector off the Relief Solenoid which disables the acv and dumps the air overboard.....then the 02 sensor would read in the 0.7v or so range i.e. rich.
I read this theory/idea, somewhere, sometime, once upon a time.
as for the o2 sensor reading rich and lean, that's weird to me altogether. mainly because it seems as though the acv routing air in a way that affects the o2 sensor's reading (making it act as though the car is lean) would be a bad thing. i can't really elaborate from there because i'm flat out confused by this.
Originally Posted by HAILERS
Think about this......the 02 sensor is b/t the exaust ports and the catalytic converter. You have the air going to the catalytic converter itself. The 02 sensor is seeing a mixture at 13afr while you are on the emissions test bed and the car is at 1500 to 2100rpm. The 02 sensor is IN THE LOOP. Heck. You'all must be right to some degree. The ECU must be trying its *** off to make the engine run leaner. Or am I confused again??????????
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