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Old 09-20-05 | 04:16 PM
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what's the difference between the turbo and non turbo clutch slave cylinder?

I'm doing the t2 swap, i just got the engine in the bay, and bolted the NA slave to it. I'm using the t2 tranny. It seemed like it worked? why is it you need to use the turbo one? don't tell me the na one is longer and i probably bent my clutch fork it did feel difficult to push, but i figured that was the new centerforce pressureplate.
Old 09-20-05 | 04:21 PM
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just use the turbo slave just to be safe....
Old 09-20-05 | 04:22 PM
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As I recall the lugs are in a different spot. This changes the length of the stroke.
Old 09-20-05 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkspectrum
just use the turbo slave just to be safe....
yeah I'm gonna, i just didn't realise they were different till today, and I'm hoping i didn't damage anything by installing it and pushing the clutch pedal a couple times. I'm dreading going back to the shop and looking at my clutch fork...
Old 09-20-05 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
As I recall the lugs are in a different spot. This changes the length of the stroke.
not sure, but i think i remember this from last installs :

NA slave does not fit TII trans (being too long when u try bolt it in)

TII slave on NA trans will be too short then, might/might not be able shift with improper movement of fork

I wouldn`t be worried about any damage, unless u installed NA slave on TII transmission with engine out and THEN dropped engine back with tension on fork (if thats physically possible)
Old 09-20-05 | 07:36 PM
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the turbo and na slave cylinder...

the mounting thingy is more toward the front on the turbo slave cylinder, thus positioning the cylidner further back

you can run a t2 slave cylinder in a na tranny if you have a long euogh rod, but yuo cant do it vise versa
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Originally Posted by slpin
you can run a t2 slave cylinder in a na tranny
Actually you can't - I tried, search my new thread Slave cylinder - quick question
Old 06-26-06 | 07:48 PM
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I have been running what I believe is a NA slave cylinder on my turbo tranny for a couple years now.

When I installed my xtreme act pressure plate I noticed that the clutch was super hard to push in and that the clutch didnt engage untill the very end of the pedal movement.

Then I started having hydrolic issues. My clutch periodically sticks to the floor and my clutch engages at different pedal heights sometimes too.

I replaced my master cylinder and the problem went away for a few days, then returned. I bought a new master cylinder and the same thing happened. Now I am going to replace the slave, but I want to make sure that I am getting a turbo slave not a non turbo. Could someone post a picture of a turbo slave, because I think all I have are non turbo ones. It might be a nice addition to this thread to have pictures.

Once I order my turbo slave I will post a picture of the NA and turbo slaves side by side. Thanks!
Old 07-25-06 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by chris_stampe
I have been running what I believe is a NA slave cylinder on my turbo tranny for a couple years now.

When I installed my xtreme act pressure plate I noticed that the clutch was super hard to push in and that the clutch didnt engage untill the very end of the pedal movement.

Then I started having hydrolic issues. My clutch periodically sticks to the floor and my clutch engages at different pedal heights sometimes too.

I replaced my master cylinder and the problem went away for a few days, then returned. I bought a new master cylinder and the same thing happened. Now I am going to replace the slave, but I want to make sure that I am getting a turbo slave not a non turbo. Could someone post a picture of a turbo slave, because I think all I have are non turbo ones. It might be a nice addition to this thread to have pictures.

Once I order my turbo slave I will post a picture of the NA and turbo slaves side by side. Thanks!
Hey did you happen to fix the problem you were having. I am actually in the boat , we're in the finishing stages of a TII vert swap. Decided to us the NA clutch since I've heard they are similiar as the TIIs now I am starting to have doubts.

It attached fine but it wouldent move the fork back far enough to put the screws in it. We actually removed the trans a bit then attached the clutch slave , bolted it all back. Also we checked on the bearing since we though it might have came off the shaft but that was fine so it didnt explain why the fork didnt move far enough.

Anyway bled it and tried to drive , clutches in at like 3k and then just slips and slips and slips to the point where it just doesnt move.

So yeah maybe someone can shine some light on this subject. If not I'll go grab a TII clutch slave.
Old 07-25-06 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by chris_stampe
Could someone post a picture of a turbo slave, because I think all I have are non turbo ones.
Here ya go.

Edit: you *might* be able to grind the ivot on the N/a slave to work on a TII trans, but DO NOT TRY THIS, YOU WOULD BE GRINDING AWAY SOMETHING YOU USE 5 TIMES TO GET UP TO THE SPEEDLIMIT!!

The TII slave on the N/A tranny, WILL NOT work because the piston wuld pop out of the slave when fully extended.

Don't be a cheap *** with this, a new slave is peanuts, match your slave to your tranny.

Also - they are the same series to series...only difference is whether or not its turbo.
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Old 07-25-06 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by arkady151
Hey did you happen to fix the problem you were having. I am actually in the boat , we're in the finishing stages of a TII vert swap. Decided to us the NA clutch since I've heard they are similiar as the TIIs now I am starting to have doubts.

It attached fine but it wouldent move the fork back far enough to put the screws in it. We actually removed the trans a bit then attached the clutch slave , bolted it all back. Also we checked on the bearing since we though it might have came off the shaft but that was fine so it didnt explain why the fork didnt move far enough.

Anyway bled it and tried to drive , clutches in at like 3k and then just slips and slips and slips to the point where it just doesnt move.

So yeah maybe someone can shine some light on this subject. If not I'll go grab a TII clutch slave.
the NA clutch is a bit smaller than the TII... 215 mm compared to 235 or something like that (i dont remember the exact numbers, i think they're on ACT's website). using an OEM replacement NA clutch with a turbo motor will just give you a nice little cloud of clutch dust and a burning smell as soon as you hit boost.
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Originally Posted by toplessFC3Sman
the NA clutch is a bit smaller than the TII... 215 mm compared to 235 or something like that (i dont remember the exact numbers, i think they're on ACT's website). using an OEM replacement NA clutch with a turbo motor will just give you a nice little cloud of clutch dust and a burning smell as soon as you hit boost.
**** I meant clutch slave , its a full TII swap , drivetrain and engine , the only NA thing being the clutch slave.
Old 07-25-06 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by classicauto

Also - they are the same series to series...only difference is whether or not its turbo.
Thats good news , mine NA clutch slave is an s5 while everything else is s4. So I thought that might be a problem.

Regardless I'll get an S4 TII clutch slave and not worry about it.

Thanks all.
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