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Old 01-21-03, 03:08 PM
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Basically, you are looking at about $3,000 - $3,500 for that car. Also note that the engine is probably on its last legs with 132K mi, so you would soon be paying about $2K for a rebuild. However, just about any car in your price range will probably need a rebuild soon.
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sorry this is offtopic:
did any S5 T2's really come with airbags? i thought only verts had that option...
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You know what? Some of us arent so damn fortunate to live in places where TIIs are plentiful. YOU try to find a TII in Tucson. I am DAMN LUCKY to even have my 10th AE.

Conversely, MY CAR IS WORTH MORE DOWN HERE!! Thats called the law of supply and demand. An educated soul such as yourself should be able to grasp that concept.
I don't think that supply is the problem. I think it comes down to two things:
1) You guys tend to look for cars listed in the Auto Trader, where most cars list for way too much money. You should look in the local newspaper and check with your local RX-7 clubs.

2) Tucson is a college town filled with young, inexperienced car buyers who are willing to spend a lot of extra scholarship money on a used sports car because they don't know any better. Note that you can generally get a better deal on cars close to graduation, while you are going to get reamed on pricing at the beginning of semesters. The nearby military base with young "military intelligence" types may also be a factor.

If you really can't find anything in a month or two, then try looking for cars in the Phoenix area, which is only a couple of hours drive.

PS: I was born in Tucson, and I lived in Arizona for over 16 years, so I do know a little bit about the area. Shouldn't you guys be looking for a Ranchero or El Camino? Those are the vehicles to have if you want to be slick in AZ.
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haha el camino ..... damn dude thats what my dad wanted me to buy how sad hosad that is hahaha


anyways thanks for alll of your help guys with all the info youve given me has helped me make the decsion of what im gonnna offer which is pretty much all the money i have haha dependin on if i make my runs to the blood plasma and make a donation of my lil soilders haha

(hopefully i wont have to go that far)

3000g's it what i have in the couch cushions and savings...and prolly 500 if i sell fluids haha


sad thing is i cant wait till he says a flat out "**** no" cuase he know rx7s pretty well


well wish me luck...and J-RAT... if this car becomes mine we will have to talk about your tranny
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Originally posted by Erik
sorry this is offtopic:
did any S5 T2's really come with airbags? i thought only verts had that option...
Hmm, I think you are right, but wasn't it in the 90 models? Sorry about that, my S5 trivia knowledge isn't quite as good as my S4 trivia knowledge. I think the S5 coupes' verson of SRS was the annoying automatic seat belts.
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haha el camino ..... damn dude thats what my dad wanted me to buy how sad hosad that is hahaha
Ooo, did it have Astro Turf?
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If the guy knew a hole lot about rx7s he would know that they are not worth $5k with 132k miles on it. but seeing how their are people on here that would pay that amount for one I just might sell mine for a RIDICULOUS PRICE ha ha.
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i just e-mailed the guy and said my offer was 3000 to 3500...hopefully he rights me back... the urge for turbo grows strong wiht in me...

wich me luck haha
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Originally posted by DAN CARWIN
Man, I don't know what you guys are smoking, and if your not than I feel sorry for you guys. I can find s5 all night and day for cheap. here is what i have come aross in my days of finding rx7s.

89' gtus black on black 215kmiles $200.00
89' turbo II blaze red 42K orig miles $4000
89' turbo II black on black 155k miles $2000 (blown motor)
87' turbo II red 34k org miles $3500 (I can't belive it either)
89' turbo II blaze red 73K miles $1000 ( blown motor)
88' turbo II black 113k miles $2500.
I will stop making you guys jelous now. but 5-6 thousand is way to much money for a s5 with 133k miles on it.

1987 Turbo II black runs great, no accidents, body is perfect: $100.00
Man I'm glad my boss' husband was dumb.
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1987 Turbo II black runs great, no accidents, body is perfect: $100.00
Man I'm glad my boss' husband was dumb.
LOL, yes, but I don't think it's reasonable to expect a deal like that to come along very often. Once we had a Lamborghini sell for under $20K here in Florida because some recently-divorced woman wanted to shaft her ex. If you ask me, she just shafted herself, but I guess she didn't see it that way.
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Originally posted by Evil Aviator
1) You guys tend to look for cars listed in the Auto Trader, where most cars list for way too much money. You should look in the local newspaper and check with your local RX-7 clubs.
I've been on the local RX-7 club's mailing list for 3 years, browse the forsale ads constantly, check at least 4 different websites for cars and monitor newspaper ads from Sacramento to Fresno. There are almost NEVER any nice kouki TurboII's for sale under $6k, and like I said before, most go for more. Even after I got my TurboII I still checked ads, nothing has come up.

I challenge someone to find one in the Bay Area, in good running shape, no dents, no rust, for under $5k. Sure there are some occasionally, but not worth buying.

And no, I don't want a zenki FC, once you get a kouki you don't want to deal with older ones.
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Originally posted by Evil Aviator

I don't think that supply is the problem. I think it comes down to two things:
1) You guys tend to look for cars listed in the Auto Trader, where most cars list for way too much money. You should look in the local newspaper and check with your local RX-7 clubs.

2) Tucson is a college town filled with young, inexperienced car buyers who are willing to spend a lot of extra scholarship money on a used sports car because they don't know any better. Note that you can generally get a better deal on cars close to graduation, while you are going to get reamed on pricing at the beginning of semesters. The nearby military base with young "military intelligence" types may also be a factor.

If you really can't find anything in a month or two, then try looking for cars in the Phoenix area, which is only a couple of hours drive.

PS: I was born in Tucson, and I lived in Arizona for over 16 years, so I do know a little bit about the area. Shouldn't you guys be looking for a Ranchero or El Camino? Those are the vehicles to have if you want to be slick in AZ.
Okay sport:

Lets dismiss each statement out of hand...

1. I check Autotrader, www.bigdealclassifieds.com, local papers (Thriftly Nickel). etc...Dont assume I dont know how to buy or find cars. I can say with resonable certainty that I have been doing it almost as long as you have.

2. YES, there are FEW FCs around the college area, but they ARENT FOR SALE....And since I work on the AF base I can tell you FIRST HAND, that I am one of THREE people driving FCs on base..

And precisely WHAT did you mean by "military inteligence" types?

Its nice to know that you are familiar with the area, so if you are so good at locating FCs, here is my challenge:

FIND ONE IN TUCSON, S5 TII, RUNNING, GOOD SHAPE, UNDER $4000, IN 24 HOURS. Shoot, I will even concede defeat if you find one in Phoenix.

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Old 01-21-03, 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by Evil Aviator


Isn't it amazing how many people on this forum think that these cars are rare and have some type of special resale value?
well check the topic from a couple days ago calling S5 turbo owners... in a few days like 4 people replyed....

I've see more 10th AE's then S5 turbos...

PS I think only the verts came with airbags.
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siiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

siiiiiigh....

well he respectively sit in my face and said that he wouldnt sell it for any less than 5000....... he said he would take a deposit but that just doesnt work for me... poor college studen STILL living at home and working two jobs to keep my 1stgen moving


well looks like my dreams of steppin into the 2nd gen world have been stomped out again....


but thanks for all your help anyways....

lates


maybe some day i will make it into a second gen haha
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Damn dood..THat sucks. At least your 1st gen looks good. Still thinking about the turbo 12A thing?
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well check the topic from a couple days ago calling S5 turbo owners... in a few days like 4 people replyed....
i agree. i have never seen an S5 turbo on the street ever.

oh, and i think i may have been the one that started that thread you were talking about. "where are all the S5 TII's?" ?
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Keep the faith brother. You will find one got my black 88tII from some chick that flooded it and let it sit for 4 years. It was cheap.
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what the **** does kouki mean???
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Keep the faith brother. You will find one got my black 88tII from some chick that flooded it and let it sit for 4 years. It was cheap.
This thread is talking about the S5 which starts with the '89 model not an '88.
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Hmm...

for an '89 with mods that might not be a bad deal.

If the engine has never been re-built...not such a good deal. You might be able to talk him down though.

I paid $5000 US for my '89 Turbo II, 180,000 miles on the car, rebuilt engine/turbo, new paint job, wheel wells replaced, tranny in perfect condition, no rust (except on the exhaust). Perfect condition minus small amounts of wear on the seats, almost all highway kilometers, never winter driven, it was still running the original exhaust, which I replaced due to corrosion. All of the car was still original or direct replacement parts. STOCK. (with minor porting on the intake ports during rebuild).
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Originally posted by RX7withNitrous
what the **** does kouki mean???
i thought it translated to "mid-life change" or somethin.

could be very wrong
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I paid $5000 US for my '89 Turbo II, 180,000 miles on the car, rebuilt engine/turbo, new paint job, wheel wells replaced, tranny in perfect condition, no rust (except on the exhaust).
Now THAT's a much better deal. However, the car in this thread is also $5K, but $2K will be required for an engine rebuild, plus another $1K or so for the turbo and transmission rebuild, maybe more. That's $8K total, which is silly in my opinion, especially considering the reported condition of the car's interior and exterior. Geez, you could build a nice single-turbo S4 TII for that kind of money.

Originally posted by RX7withNitrous
what the **** does kouki mean???
http://fc3s-pro.com/abb.html

Originally posted by J-Rat
And precisely WHAT did you mean by "military inteligence" types?
http://usaic.hua.army.mil/
While not actually in Tucson, Ft. Hauchuca is close enough to affect the economy, especially when it comes to the demographic types which are most likely to buy a used FC. I wouldn't think that Davis-Mothan would be much of a factor in the used FC market.

LOL, if you are only spending 24hrs to look for cars, then you are probably not going to find a whole lot of good deals. Price a canned soft drink at 7-11 and compare it to the same thing at the supermarket. Price a package sent next-day air through Federal Express vs. the same thing sent 1st class through the USPS. Convenience costs money, and there is a difference between price and value. If convenience is worth the price to you, then that's fine, but just don't expect a lot of value for your dollar.

BTW, for those who like rare RX-7's, here is a 10AE for $2K.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6327
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Value is whatever buyer and seller agree on at any point in time

$5,000 could be worth it depending on condition. I don't think 2nd gens are rare enough to command collector prices but any good 10 year old car can be worth 5G. I define good as excellent paint/body/interior/mechanicals/electric. Anything that does not work is a bargaining chip.

In the northeast you are not going to find $100 rx7's. You generally get what you pay for, most people know what they have and so should a buyer.

As far as mileage goes, depends on how well car was maintained. Any engine or tranny can go, no warranties on 10 yr old cars. I live in NYC my daily drivers have low miles but get the crap beat out of them.
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