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What are these?
I ordered a set of manifolds and fuel rails, and these were included. I admit im no pro but i was able to tell what everythign else was except these. Are the 6 port sleeves? thats the only thing i can think of.
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Yep, 6 port sleeve insurts. Leave those out! Did you make your own brackets to mount the 5 spd in the auto tranny car?? I just did that job to a friends car and had to fabricate the mountings.
Where did you order the gasket that they sent those God awful things?
Where did you order the gasket that they sent those God awful things?
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Originally Posted by Radial GT
Leave those out!
God awful things?
God awful things?
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Originally Posted by Radial GT
Yep, 6 port sleeve insurts. Leave those out! Did you make your own brackets to mount the 5 spd in the auto tranny car?? I just did that job to a friends car and had to fabricate the mountings.
Where did you order the gasket that they sent those God awful things?
Where did you order the gasket that they sent those God awful things?
As for the sleeves, im glad i was right, im not going to install them and I bought the parts from rotary ressurection. I bought the entire set of s5 manifolds and fuel rails for a good price and these were in the box as well. Ill just sell them. thanks again.
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I drove my car around the first time I rebuilt an engine, and left the whole thing stock.
The second car I did, I took them out. You have to be the type of person to drive your RX like an RX to take them out. I just figured that everyone here was the redline type. You gain quite a bit more pull up at top end with them out. Who the hell needs low end, the redline is 8K. Timmy
The second car I did, I took them out. You have to be the type of person to drive your RX like an RX to take them out. I just figured that everyone here was the redline type. You gain quite a bit more pull up at top end with them out. Who the hell needs low end, the redline is 8K. Timmy
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Originally Posted by patman
well, if you take them out, thats the same as being open all the time, only slightly worse for airflow.
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Originally Posted by Radial GT
Yep, 6 port sleeve insurts. Leave those out!
Originally Posted by Radial GT
I just figured that everyone here was the redline type. You gain quite a bit more pull up at top end with them out. Who the hell needs low end, the redline is 8K. Timmy
EDIT: on a blown 6port engine (not 4port) this is a COMPLETELY different situation. But I'm just guessing you don't have a blown 6port, just a 6port that doesn't have any low end because you remvoed the 6port sleeves
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Radial Gt has some good points.
When pulled they do not effect low end that I much I dont really know sense I never keep my rx7 below 4000 anyway. But they take up some relastate in the port its self so they do flow better and its enough to tell a difference..
Plus they never open all the way when they are left in and so they are very ristrictive.
When pulled they do not effect low end that I much I dont really know sense I never keep my rx7 below 4000 anyway. But they take up some relastate in the port its self so they do flow better and its enough to tell a difference..
Plus they never open all the way when they are left in and so they are very ristrictive.
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Originally Posted by Radial GT
Who the hell needs low end, the redline is 8K. Timmy
Originally Posted by RX7goZoomZoomBoom
...I never keep my rx7 below 4000 anyway.
Plus they never open all the way when they are left in and so they are very ristrictive.
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removing them WILL hurt you in the top end too, someone just dynoed their car with and without the ports. 118 was without and 136 was with them. heres the thread but the carts are gone now. https://www.rx7club.com/time-slips-dyno-128/87-rx-7-base-line-project-300544/
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Ok i se whats going on here, i thouhgt that these were the pineapple sleeve not realizing that there are a stock version already in the car. I could have sworn that you only put sleeves in if you want them open all the time, guess i was absolutely wrong.
You can look up a test to see if the aux. ports are opening correctly.
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Thank god, somebody that admits when they didn't know something but learned something from people posting trying to help them. Sir, I salute you .
You can look up a test to see if the aux. ports are opening correctly.
You can look up a test to see if the aux. ports are opening correctly.
So let me understand this. I can get the pineapple inserts and install them but still have operational 6 ports?
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Originally Posted by scheistermeister
removing them WILL hurt you in the top end too, someone just dynoed their car with and without the ports. 118 was without and 136 was with them. heres the thread but the carts are gone now. https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=300544
Nowhere do I see a chart for any power differences with the ports removed versus wired open - that data I would be very interested in seeing.
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Originally Posted by wrankin
Nowhere do I see a chart for any power differences with the ports removed versus wired open - that data I would be very interested in seeing.
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Originally Posted by I EAT CIVICS
So let me understand this. I can get the pineapple inserts and install them but still have operational 6 ports?
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
Go to the Pineapple website and actually look at what they are. Then you will understand.
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They have absolutely nothing to do with the operation of the ports, and I don't know how you got the impression they did. You can see from the photos that they sit completely inside the sleeve, and smooth the flow of air as it turns into the chamber. This has exacly the same effect whether the ports are operational or fixed open.
Whether they're actually worth the money is hard to say. In theory there will definitly be a gain, but it's hard to estimate how much. Even Pineapple offer nothing in the way of evidence of how much gain you'll see, and I've never seem anyone do any independant back-to-back dyno testing.
Whether they're actually worth the money is hard to say. In theory there will definitly be a gain, but it's hard to estimate how much. Even Pineapple offer nothing in the way of evidence of how much gain you'll see, and I've never seem anyone do any independant back-to-back dyno testing.
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Originally Posted by NZConvertible
They have absolutely nothing to do with the operation of the ports, and I don't know how you got the impression they did. You can see from the photos that they sit completely inside the sleeve, and smooth the flow of air as it turns into the chamber. This has exacly the same effect whether the ports are operational or fixed open.
Whether they're actually worth the money is hard to say. In theory there will definitly be a gain, but it's hard to estimate how much. Even Pineapple offer nothing in the way of evidence of how much gain you'll see, and I've never seem anyone do any independant back-to-back dyno testing.
Whether they're actually worth the money is hard to say. In theory there will definitly be a gain, but it's hard to estimate how much. Even Pineapple offer nothing in the way of evidence of how much gain you'll see, and I've never seem anyone do any independant back-to-back dyno testing.
one thing interesting is that in cars with the sleelves in which are using an SAFC, the AFL% reading, basically the air volume reading from the afm/temp sensors (i think) is higher with pineapple sleeves in (at least as far as we have noticed having put the sleeves into 2 cars with SAFC's so far) than it is with the original unmodified sleeves.
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