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Old 05-19-08 | 08:40 PM
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What kind of offer should I make on this RX7?

Ok so i found an 89 RX7 in my area... body has some minor flaws nothing big... interior is in good shape... heater does not work...

List of things done to the car:
LT1 engine with approx 126000 miles
6 speed T56 Transmission
full 3 in exhaust with straight pipe
Grannys full engine kit including new radiator
Tokico 5 way adjustable struts
Eibach springs 1 in drop
suspension techniques sway bars( front and back)
new tie rods, new ball joints, new control arms
slotted and cross drilled rotors
17 " GTR rims with good tires
Turbo II Rear End ( LSD Diff) with driveshaft
2 3" aero turbin mufflers

Not sure what I should offer as it has the Camaro Z28 LT1 V8 engine in it....
Old 05-19-08 | 09:04 PM
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its not a rotory but hey still looks like a 7 so id still buy it..judging by your description and not seeing it in person you have little things that still determines price such as how well everything flows/any rust fenderwells or hatch/how well put together like neatness of swap like wires hanging or loomed...on the scale it can go for shitty swap 5k to 12k for mint...thro him 6.5k and go from there
Old 05-19-08 | 09:24 PM
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its not a rotory but hey still looks like a 7 so id still buy it..judging by your description and not seeing it in person you have little things that still determines price such as how well everything flows/any rust fenderwells or hatch/how well put together like neatness of swap like wires hanging or loomed...on the scale it can go for shitty swap 5k to 12k for mint...thro him 6.5k and go from there
Well i just called him and he wanted 5200 and i told him id see what i can do as i have 4k cash right now and he said if i can get together 4500 cash i can take it...

sound worth it?
Old 05-20-08 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1000wrhp
Well i just called him and he wanted 5200 and i told him id see what i can do as i have 4k cash right now and he said if i can get together 4500 cash i can take it...

sound worth it?
I will guarantee that he has a lot over that in just labor and parts alone. A good deal if you are looking for a conversion. As long as your description is accurate. Again, not going to be a "pure" RX-7 but you gain a lot in reliability, gas milage, lower emissions, power....oh , and you might want to post over at v8rx7forum as you will get bashed up side the head for even considering a swapped out car on here.
"They don't like them ther swaps over here..."
Old 05-20-08 | 07:56 AM
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nothing. whats the point of buying a 7 if its heart and soul has been ripped out?
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Originally Posted by Cpt.Zanzibar
nothing. whats the point of buying a 7 if its heart and soul has been ripped out?
Ding...ding....ding
Round one:

It's "heart and soul" vs "Reliability, Power, Lower Emmisions & Common Sense"
Old 05-20-08 | 09:29 AM
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Wait...Common Sense?

You are arguing a V8 swap is common sense?

Old 05-20-08 | 09:43 AM
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sounds like a good price to me.
Old 05-20-08 | 09:51 AM
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Old 05-20-08 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeZoom
Ding...ding....ding
Round one:

It's "heart and soul" vs "Reliability, Power, Lower Emmisions & Common Sense"
common sense would dictate buying the car that the LT1 would have come in. common sense woudl dictate building a reliable rotary and keeping up with upkeep, not bastardizing a rotary sports car. what is the point in owning an rx7 thats not an rx7?

To stay on topic... i think that sounds like a decent price for what it is but i would expect some more work coming my way if i were to pruchase that car. I personally wouldn't want to get into a car with such a swap that i wasn't involved in. I've seen some dumb ****, even in cars that aren't swapped. just my .02, good luck.

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common sense would tell you to stay out of V8 posts lol
Old 05-20-08 | 04:01 PM
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??? what the ??? V8??? why in gods name would you post something like this....

pistons?....wha??? i dont understand stupid.
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Originally Posted by well uhhh
common sense....building a reliable rotary.....
Isn't this an oxymoron???
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Originally Posted by JoeZoom
Isn't this an oxymoron???
No.
Old 05-20-08 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeZoom
Isn't this an oxymoron???
oh... im sorry i guess you are right, there is absolutely no such thing as a reliable rotary. never has existed and never will, we should all just bastardize our rotary sports car with a badass v8. I just wanna know why the rx7? you could cram a lt1 in a damn festiva, why ruin something unique?
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maybe just maybe cause its a good chassis to start with, don’t act like the RX7 is the only car people do this to, its not gods child or anything. Just get off your high horse already.
Old 05-20-08 | 04:52 PM
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im not on any horse... i was simply wondering. i am aware that the rx7 is not the olny car (hence the comment about the festiva), but it is the only rotary car, something unique. you hit the nail on the head. If this isn't the olny car to do it to, then why the rx7. bastardize something else.
Old 05-20-08 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeZoom
Ding...ding....ding
Round one:

It's "heart and soul" vs "Reliability, Power, Lower Emmisions & Common Sense"


Buy a camaro instead way cheaper.
Old 05-20-08 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by well uhhh
im not on any horse... i was simply wondering. i am aware that the rx7 is not the olny car (hence the comment about the festiva), but it is the only rotary car, something unique. you hit the nail on the head. If this isn't the olny car to do it to, then why the rx7. bastardize something else.

Like I said man get over yourself I will do what I want with the car I own. There is nothing basterdized about my car.
Old 05-21-08 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 1987RX7guy
Buy a camaro instead way cheaper.
What a heavy, poor handling north American pig iron that's like elbows and ******** - everybody's got one.
Old 05-21-08 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sabre002
Like I said man get over yourself I will do what I want with the car I own. There is nothing basterdized about my car.
It's basterdized.



The end.

Anything in a rx7 other then rotary=fail as well as this ---->
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It sounds like a alright price but your going to be mad when you get spanked by a 1.3L haha. I agree that a rotary is as reliable as you make it. There are plenty of high horsepower, reliable rotaries being built and drivin. The people that need to get off there high horses are the ones that dog rotaries for not being reliable, because it is Completly untrue.
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Originally Posted by siguy2k
..... The people that need to get off there high horses are the ones that dog rotaries for not being reliable, because it is Completly untrue.
I have bought and owned 9 RX7's over the past 20 years now (from a 79 to a 91) and without exception, all of them (except the 89 I have now) have had engine problems. Most of them had the "Famous" apex failure with a few having coolent seal problems and only one having a main bearing problem.

Now having a engine problem in itself is not that bad as you just either get it repaired or if you are able, repair it yourself. Here is where the first problem comes in. For a small, simple (only three main moving parts) engine, this is the one of the most expensive engines to repair!!! If you do it yourself, and get all the parts wholesale, you still will have over $750 (seals and gaskets) to over $2000 (seals, gaskets, housings...etc) in the rebuild. No way around it. If Anything goes wrong with it internally, it is rebuild time.

And on average, it is around the 100K-125K milage that they usually go out. Now this is also an average for a lot of other engines, but at a WHOLE lot less to rebuild, and you DO NOT have to rebuild the WHOLE engine (wise to but not always necessary). And after a rebuild, if these "Other" engines have a problem after, a complete rebuild is usually not necessary. Example...got a head gasket go bad....replace it, only. Got a cam go bad, replace it...only....etc.

Second problem is that a rotary almost always gives no warning that it is going bad, just up and dies on you or starts eating water like there is no tomorrow. They also have very bad emissions, use an ton of gas for the size of the engine, have no torque to speak of and have to put a lot of $$ into them to make any decent power at all. Then, when you get some bad gas or a little bit of detonation, "pop"...there goes that new apex seal...time for another rebuild.

For me, I love the style and looks of the RX7, and the engine too, but when it comes to putting $2000 out for another rotary or a little bit more for a LS1...well, it just makes sense. More power, same handling, better reliability, better gas milage, better emissions, less maintanence, no flooding worries, the list just goes on and on.
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same handling????

NEW RX7!!!!! NOW WITH MORE METAL HANGING OVER THE FRONT WHEELS!!!!!

this car wasnt designed for that engine at all, there is a pretty big handling difference, and before you say idk what im talking, yes ive driven both, and the 13b is still better handling and more fun to drive.

this car he wants does NOT have an LS1 in it, its a heavy *** older camaro LT1. this is not the GODLIKE LS1 you weirdos like to bastardize one of the best sports cars of the previous century with.

plus isnt having that air of uncertainty floating around your rex half the fun??
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Originally Posted by JoeZoom
I have bought and owned 9 RX7's over the past 20 years now (from a 79 to a 91) and without exception, all of them (except the 89 I have now) have had engine problems. Most of them had the "Famous" apex failure with a few having coolent seal problems and only one having a main bearing problem.
Oh Noes!!! My 20+ year old cars are not reliable!!! Every other 20 year old car in existence that runs a piston motor is still running flawlessly like its just off of the showroom floor.


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