what does it take to run a low 12?
07-19-05, 04:22 AM
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imprezedrs on here is a local guy running a turbo gxl... 6 port with s5 tii manifolds, turbo and s4 tii ecu. safc 460s and 720s, fmic, TID, 3" DP and CB no cats.... he did like 204 on like 10 psi if i remember right. but that dyno was back when he had the n/a ecu... hell he had a very different setup when he dynoed.
but it has nothing left. aluminum dash, sunroof... no anything... its a easy bake oven.... it suprised the hell out of me when he got me freeway when i was on low boost.
he makes boost at like 2.3k
he needs to dyno again... hell he might run a high 12 when it gets the bugs worked out.
but it has nothing left. aluminum dash, sunroof... no anything... its a easy bake oven.... it suprised the hell out of me when he got me freeway when i was on low boost.
he makes boost at like 2.3k
he needs to dyno again... hell he might run a high 12 when it gets the bugs worked out.
07-19-05, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by vipers
aaron.....you really think a 6-port w/ a stock turbo could pull 12's?? stock motor, or ported??? what boost?? id assume no more than 7-8 lbs. due to the higher compression.....
07-19-05, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Mine did, at 12-14 PSI on not enough fuel. I have not posted any timeslips because I simply can't find them in the enormous box of slips that I have. I don't post about it because a bunch of people that have no 6 port turbo experience start arguments...But you'll find similar experiences with most of us that have run any kind of boost on the 6 port block.
07-23-05, 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mx6-Rx7 Addict
Show me a stock port non turbo FC that runs twelves.
Maybe on juice, but i highly doubt it.
Maybe on juice, but i highly doubt it.
Originally Posted by Turbo23
well it COULD, but it would have to weight in the area of like 1500lbs or maybe less. So it would basically need to be backhalfed, and everything superlight. That would cost more then just turboing the car. Just get a turbo motor, make around eh 350hp and ull be fine
Originally Posted by slpin
yeah.... you just need one of thsoe thi8ngs that move up and down instead of the engines that spins in a circle
Originally Posted by Karack
riiiight....
rotaries take to forced induction better than non forced, good luck pulling a 12 in an n/a. maybe if you put a 3 rotor into a go kart.
rotaries take to forced induction better than non forced, good luck pulling a 12 in an n/a. maybe if you put a 3 rotor into a go kart.
Originally Posted by RX_AV8TR
An n/a FC into the 12's with no porting....sorry, is not gonna happen.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. That could be my fault. The thread starter did not state wheter or not the motor, powering his 12 second FC, would be N/A. I'm sure a 12 second N/A FC is possible, but I'm not advocating ripping out the entire car to some silly weight like 1500lbs.
A properly modified NON-turbo, stock port 13B can push a 2nd gen into 12's. I shouldnt have to explain how. If you figured it out, that makes you one point smarter.
What do I think it would take to run low 12's in an FC???
300RWHP in a 2800 FC.
How you make the HP is your own debate. I'll use nitrous.
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07-23-05, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sleeperfc
imprezedrs on here is a local guy running a turbo gxl... 6 port with s5 tii manifolds, turbo and s4 tii ecu. safc 460s and 720s, fmic, TID, 3" DP and CB no cats.... he did like 204 on like 10 psi if i remember right. but that dyno was back when he had the n/a ecu... hell he had a very different setup when he dynoed.
i made 222whp@10psi in my 91 NA>T2 (it had 9.0 rotors)
and he has a serious problem (or he's about to) if he's running 10psi from a s5 turbo on a 9.7:1 6port engine with 460cc NA injectors...
07-23-05, 02:48 AM
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According to the ET calculator URL from the first page at 2700lbs with 26" tyres and 3.11 final it takes 287 hp to get to 11.87 .. in which case a simple P port NA with 22" primaries and min of dual 48mm webbers will do the trick.. if it's wheel hp then bump the 48's to 55's and your over 300hp easy.. ( dynos for the 48's to prove it.. )
peronally I think 287hp on a 2700lb car is a bit too favorable for sub 12.5 never mind 11's
peronally I think 287hp on a 2700lb car is a bit too favorable for sub 12.5 never mind 11's
07-23-05, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdv519
How you make the HP is your own debate. I'll use nitrous.
Well bigD...I'm going to give on this one, you are absolutely correct. I wasn't even considering NOS, have never used it and honestly I know very little about them, I don't like it. Sicne I started I saw too many engines on NOS blow up. I know new systems are reliable but I feel it kinda like cheating...that's just me though.
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