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Old 12-02-07 | 08:20 PM
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JIC A2's, i prefer these to teins and cusco's through my own expearance, unfortanately i do not have any hard proof to support this, but i feel their stiff when you want them to be, and they ride a bit nicer daily than some of the rest, its some times just diffacult to rebuild them when you want.
Old 12-02-07 | 08:23 PM
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I've heard alot of good things about the stance GR+ and have actually heard they are better than the tein coil overs.
Old 12-02-07 | 09:01 PM
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I got my stances (GR+) a few months ago and totally love them. Just pm rishie at www.autornd.com and he can give you a good price shipped. I use mine for drifting and they're stiff enough for me. I just need to get sway bars and I think i'm done
Old 12-02-07 | 09:03 PM
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Ive got Ground Controls and Konis. Thinking of changing it a little though
Old 12-02-07 | 09:09 PM
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Revalve and get stiffer springs? Adding a compression adjuster?
Old 12-02-07 | 09:50 PM
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i use koni oranges on mine. They are ride height and dampening adjustable. Very easy to adjust both.

I love em. The only thing I will need in the future is a camber plate.

Old 12-03-07 | 09:42 AM
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Oranges? I've seen Reds and Yellows, what model number are the oranges? Is it rebound only or compression and rebound?
Old 12-03-07 | 01:52 PM
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you mean the dampening adjustment?
I believe it's compression and rebound.

They had to actually be made to fit my car.

Here is the SHOP that did it for me.

I alsmost went for the yellows, but it wasnt really worth it since they are so easy to adjust as it is.
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Independent compression adjuster and rebound adjuster, or one adjuster for both? I didn't even know Koni made shocks that adjusted both compression and rebound on one adjuster? Is it the adjust where you have to use Koni's special white cap, and put it on top of the shock to turn it? The white cap that indicated which way is firm?
Old 12-03-07 | 02:47 PM
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You can get double adjustable Koni inserts for the front and they'll convert Yellows to double adjustable for you.

http://www.flatout-motorsports.com/c...975d88b7ca6a12
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Gah.....i shoulda bought those first.....now I have to send them in for a revalve/adjuster add.
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it's a little slit at the top of the shock. you stick a small flathead in there and slide one way or the other. There are 4 settings from soft to stiff.

I'll double check on that dampening adjustment, i thought I remembered him saying they were both comp and rebound. FJB builds Koni shocks. They get the valving, paint, stickers, etc from Koni and build shocks custom for what ever the application is.
Old 12-03-07 | 06:01 PM
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I have Tein, super street dampener w/ pillow ball upper mount. They rock.
Highly Recommended.

http://www.tein.com/products/super_s...illowball.html

+1.. stiff ride. you can tell when you're on a bad road.
Old 12-03-07 | 06:55 PM
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green tiens + the red 4way adjustable kybs in front, red 8way adjustable kybs in back because they came with it. i think they're gonna be fine for what i need which is pretending im in gran tourismo 4 around town (no drift just grip). im eventually gonna need some lower profile tires. anyone know what this suspension setup would cost by the way? i was thinking at least the 500 i paid for the car.
Old 12-03-07 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by stylEmon
i use koni oranges on mine. They are ride height and dampening adjustable. Very easy to adjust both.

I love em. The only thing I will need in the future is a camber plate.

How much was that set up? What brand spring, and sleeve are you using? And what the different between those orange koni and these koni http://www.flatout-motorsports.com/c...975d88b7ca6a12
Old 12-04-07 | 07:05 AM
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GC sleeves/Koni with custom springs and valving.

Why would you mess with preset stuff? Get something matched to how YOU are going to drive the car.

PS: This is less expensive than spending on JDM tyte yo off-the-shelf coil over systems. Save that money and get some suspension and steering bushings, they will help you feel what your tires are doing more.
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I also use Stance Coilovers..

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Old 12-04-07 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by coxxoc
GC sleeves/Koni with custom springs and valving.

Why would you mess with preset stuff? Get something matched to how YOU are going to drive the car.

PS: This is less expensive than spending on JDM tyte yo off-the-shelf coil over systems. Save that money and get some suspension and steering bushings, they will help you feel what your tires are doing more.
The JDM stuff is cheaper....that's why most people opt for them.
Old 12-04-07 | 09:50 AM
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i have tokico illumina's and ground controls, but only because i got a killer deal on them.

they handle and drift great. the height adjustment is kinda weak, as i cant run as slammed as i want but its not too bad.

if i had to buy anything right now it'd be

parts shop max, only coilover with camber/caster plates besides the AWR ones. go low as hell

KTS, beefy, heard good things

Stance, if theyve gotten their defective pillowball issue sorted out.

these are all in the 1k-1200ish range.
Old 12-04-07 | 09:55 AM
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I had some mazdaspeed ones shipped over from Japan. They were a little soft, but still made a nice difference. Still ended up selling them and going back to stock springs and suspension for now.
Old 12-04-07 | 10:52 AM
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Those Max coilovers do adjust camber and caster, but there's not really any option, when you want more camber you have to accept either more or less caster. The AWR one will do it seperately, not with that silly angled slot.

Caster isn't near as important as camber, and having it set right in the middle is fine. I want to be able to adjust them seperately or not be able to adjust caster at all.

Konis, plus GC coilover sleeves, plus camber plates, plus solid rear mounts will cost just as much or more than the entry level coilovers like my Tein Flex (~$1350), and mine have seperate pre-load and shock height adjustments, allowing me to adjust it properly for a large range of ride heights. I don't have to sacrifice travel for lowering, that's a huge advantage. Plus, the konis aren't really matched for coilover type rates, they can handle the softer rates, but they're at the end of their adustment range. Add a re-valve on top of the price and you're out of the price range of entry level coilovers. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with this setup, or even with stock Konis, but there are other perfectly good options out there that cost less.
Old 12-04-07 | 11:28 AM
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GC/Bilstein is another setup that you can run, but with that setup, you forgo adjustability. However, you will have very nice matched shock curves.
Old 12-04-07 | 12:19 PM
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my Koni set-up would have cost me a fortune... probably almost as much as the car cost. But i worked out a deal involving a trade of services. Worked out well for both.

I forgot what brand springs, I'll have to check. They may actually be 120 lb rather than 110.

But rather than the buying that kit mentioned above, I had the stock shock housing fitted with a custom sleeve. The valves where set for a particularlly stiff setting. The softest setting is pretty stiff compared to stock.
Old 12-04-07 | 11:15 PM
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so I am using Hyperco 120lb springs, and the dampening adjustment is both compression and rebound
Old 12-05-07 | 08:57 AM
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120 lb??????? I guess that's good for a street car. My Tanabes were 168/112 and I thought those were plenty stiff. Can't wait to go 425/300. =P

My opinion when it comes to adjustment is that I absolutely need independent adjusters. I'd rather have one adjuster that only adjusts compression or rebound (rebound being more important) that having one that adjusts them both in lockstep. I can't fine tune weight transitions if one adjuster adjusts both.

I usually set up the compression side with springs only, as I view the compression adjust as a way to use the shock as a fake spring. But if I've already taken care of that part with the spring, then there's almost no point in having a compression adjuster.

I think your car is the first that I've seen with a Koni Orange set up. Must be pretty rare, though I guess it goes with the colors. I've seen Red and Yellow, Orange I guess wouldn't be a bad follow up for color selection.



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