I cut and pasted the "just" the springs page from Mazdatrix websit for your consumption. Notice the Vert springs have their own part number. I wonder why??? Why wouldn't the vert springs just be the same part number as "Full Set Turbo/NT"??

Aftermarket Performance / Lowering Springs
Brand Front/Rear Turbo/NT/Conv Lowers Car Part Number
ST Full Set Turbo/NT approx. .8" H-ST60290
EB Full Set Non-turbo approx. 3/4" H-5513140
EB Full Set Turbo approx. 3/4" H-5520140
RB Front (each!) Turbo/NT approx. 1" H-14020
RB Rear (each!) Turbo/NT approx. 1" H-14021
RB Front Convertible approx. 1" 14022
RB Rear Convertible approx. 1" 14023


Stock OEM Springs
Front / Rear Fits Part Number
Front Left Coupe 34-0210-FB44
Right Coupe 34-0110-FB44
Left Convertible 34-0210-FB67
Right Convertible 34-0110-FB67
Rear All Coupe (each) 28-0110-FC01

 

It doesnt matter. A vert wont out handle a TII. I'm willing to put money down that a sport which comes with TII suspension and is light weight would hand a vert its *** on a platter on an autox course.

 

verts also look better with a custom color top like mine.

 

Well I'm willing to put down money that a Dihatsu that comes with a Lotus suspension will out handle any car you got! Whats your flawed point?

 

My 88 vert runs rings around my 10thAE and both weigh the same, have only bushings and shocks upgraded over stock (and Tokico blues in the rear, KYBs in the fronts). The only difference in age is that the 10thAE was made 6 months later, and has 40K less miles.

So, You can paypal your money to me at icemark@sbcglobal.net

until you have driven a stock vert and a stock T2, you can't compare or make statements like that. You; not having driven (probably) either are simply barking out your butt.

Come back when you have driven the two back to back with stock or near stock setups.

 

The line for Paypal begins just behind ME

 

Tossing in my own $.02... (man, whoever is collecting everyone's 2 cents on this thread would be rich by now... :P)

I, personally, find the trunk lines/rear of the top to be ugly on a vert. The coupe looks much more streamlined and flows much better, in -MY- opinion.

That said, I would buy a Turbo vert in a heartbeat. I love the ability to put the top down. I used to hate on all verts, until I rode with a friend in his miata. Changed my perspective REALLY quick.

I own a '90 GXL and my windows and sunroof are always opened, but it just isn't the same. I like both models, but given the option of a TII or TII-swapped vert (or imported vert vs. imported TII, if you want to keep things as similar as possible) I'd take the 'vert in an instant.

 

That's funny the line of the trunk looks like a Vet to me. That's what I like. The hatchback is too Hatchback for me. Remember Hatchbacks were purely 'imports' at first. No respectable hot rod came with a hatchback (note, I am saying this in past tense). Hot rods maybe came in fastback but still had a trunk. (Porsche 911 is excluded)

 

ive followed this thread for a couple of days out of morbid curiosity and the fact i own a vert as well.. hell me and my girl both own verts, hers a s5 and mine a s4, on the weight thing its stupid to argue that anymore, buddy here had a 87 base with i ntake and exhaust and i did intake and exhaust and was able to beat him any race we ever had, course my intake and exhaust was a bit better in design than his were but anyway

netseven you are arguing your point way to much, you need to drop it, youve voiced your opinion and we all know what it is so shut the **** up now

STOP TRYING TO FORCE YOUR OPINION ON US ANYMORE THAN YOU HAVE, THIS IS NOT ******* RELIGION, ITS A CAR DISCUSSION BOARD

on a sidenote youd fit in very well with the ******* religious freaks around here the way you argue

 

LOL now thats just false info. YOU CANNOT BEAT A LIGHTER WEIGHT RX7 WITH SAME POWER. Thats just DUH! Both have same engines and same power. The lighter car will win PERIOD.

 

I don't think anyone with a vert will argue very hard that the increased weight is not a good thing. He's just saying you said your piece, now shut the **** up.

 

Similar mods != same power. A better-designed exhaust will make more power than a poorly made one. Perhaps the coupe is also on an older, lower compression (due to wear, not s4 vs. s5) motor as well? Small factors like this will add up. May not amount to much, but the possibility remains.

It all comes down to personal choice, which is why Mazda made both in the first place. Some like coupes, some like 'verts, you have the choice to buy what you like.

 

Thank you

 

Here in K.C. i beat up on everyone who brings out there nearly stock rx-7 to an Auto-X in my 89 vert with orignal springs and shocks(130,000 on the clock). That includes FD's and a 400rwhp 10th AE, auto-x is 90% driver and 10% car.

 

Not to stir up things but there was some specualation years ago that the designer of the Corvette and teh designer of the RX7 colaberated somehow on designs. Anybody know much about that??

 

i gotta give it to u.....you're persistent.....wrong, but persistent.

 

How close, and how much $$$$ to get there, do you think one could get a coupe's frame/subframe to vert specs?

 

A good internal Roll Cage.....properly built, can give you the rigidity you need. Just think about reducing flex at any point and you'll be ok. The vert has all the body rigidity plates in an attempt to do what one could easiliy do with a roll cage.

 

understood, thanks

 

notice how i mentioned in my reply...


hence because my exhaust had a better setup than his did (his was not stock btw) and my intake was a bit different (mine was in the fender) that it still allowed me to be able to take him.... this explains how weight is such a insignicifcant factor when were talking about coupes and verts..... do you ever race a civic and then race a civic again with a passenger in the car? can you physically tell the difference in the outcome of the race? NO YOU CANT were talking around 200 pounds here get a grip and more so get a life

 

1986 Mazda RX-7 GXL 8.5 16.5
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 6.6 15.2
1988 Mazda RX-7 Conv. 9.7 17.5
1989 Mazda RX-7 GTU 8.5 16.5

Yea tell it to the factory times.. Why the hell is a vert 1 second slower in the 1/4 mile if its "ONLY" 200lbs heavier? There has to have been more than just your intake to make that kind of difference. BIG possibility that your engine was in better shape than his, because intake does not add much power. I mean **** we are talking about 20 year old cars here. How can you expect for both to be in the same condition?

 

^^^Why don't you give up??? You've now gone from handling issues to drag racing. So now the Vert is the ugliest, The worst handling and the slowest. Do you have any other issues??? how 'bout the radio. Is the coupes radio better??? How 'bout the carpet?? Is the Coupes carpet 'better' than the Verts??

 

<good hearted joking>Well, everyone knows that every engine that comes off an assembly line has exactly the same horsepower, and that after 15+ years the only power-relevant difference in the two cars was the intake and exhaust setup </good hearted joking>

Out of curiosity is there a handy link on the comparative specs on the vert suspension pieces (relating other models and various years) and their swap-eligibility (i.e. direct swap or not)?

 

or you can do your 'vert up like this one...



mazdatrix e production car...

 

[QUOTE=introVert] Ha! I don't think so! Besides, it's a sexy pig and she would give you nothing but trouble. Jealousy & all that you know