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Old 04-29-06, 06:15 PM
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looks nice!!
Old 04-29-06, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerk_Racer
I wish I could get a guy like Ryan to work on my FC.




Words of advice:

1) If he can visualize it, he can do it. It's that simple. Don't worry about what has to be done to get it done because he can do it. If there is any worries about cutting and what not then don't worry. It'll be OK.

2) Hook him up with a FAT gift certificate to Starbucks and/or Home Depot to keep him going. That....and some Mountain Dew.
All you have to do do is ship it over here!! You might not get it back, but it will be fast!!
Old 05-02-06, 09:13 PM
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Yeah, the car is in the mail. Trust me.

I'll have to e-mail you. It's been too damned long. Damned near three years by my count. Glad to know your still around.
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More progress!!!

Here is the water neck. It has been shortened and retapped for my gauge. Before people jump on me for the location of the sender, I am already aware of the drawbacks.



Bracketing for the fans that were suggested to me by RYOfc3s:



Proposed location for the Jacobs Box:




Overview of the rad plus the fans:



IC installed with the hard piping for the coolant:



Relocated oil filler neck:

Old 05-06-06, 11:17 AM
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lookin good!

that is one monster rad...

Hope it works out like you plan - should make some very decent numbers - but Ill be interested to see your oil temps after this...given the new location of the oil cooler
Old 05-06-06, 11:24 AM
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I would think the oiler cooler would be fine. It has no restrictions in front of it so the temps should stay nice and low.
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We shall see! I think the temps will be quite manageable. I am only concerned about idle temps, but those twin fans pull 2500 CFM, so i will probably be okay.

Car made 350 rwhp on a hybrid and stock mani, so we are thinking 400 isnt out of the question. Dont know how long the motor will tolerate that power level, but hey! Its all about the fun!
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When do you estimate this project will be done? I'm getting real antsy to see how this performs.. =p
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Making the undertray. Project should be done next weekend. There really isnt any reason to rush..



Old 05-06-06, 10:09 PM
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oh ****** tight! only reason I dont' do this is cause I suck at teh aluminum I'm going to get dual 7" automotive fans for my oil cooler instead!
Old 05-07-06, 01:56 AM
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who's welding the aluminum? looks nice jarret.


edit: also, if someone will make those underbelly pans and sell them, they will sell like ******* HOTCAKES... no one believes me!
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that underbelly pan looks great! what's the thinkness of the sheet metal?
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Ok, I'm completely confused on this setup now. Creating 2 pressure zones does seem like a good idea, this would allow both radiators to get cool, fresh air. But, beyond the idea, I don't understand the design.

In you last post, you show pictures of an undertray, which is completely blocking the air under the radiator. If I understand that correctly, air is supposed to come in the front, then down through the radiator. If there's a big undertray there, that's not going to happen, the air is just going to go over the rad. Also, why are the fans on top of the radiator? I'd guess to keep them safe from the road, but pusher fans are never as efficient as pullers. Also, like it was said before, the pressure zone under the car changes with speed. Especially if you lower the car and have a lip. That lip is made specifically to make a high pressure zone, that could completely kill any flow through the rad.

Having said all that, you are right when you say this is all speculation until you get it on the road. I love to see all these different v-mount setups. Keep it up!
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
who's welding the aluminum? looks nice jarret.


edit: also, if someone will make those underbelly pans and sell them, they will sell like ******* HOTCAKES... no one believes me!
+1

Would it be a good idea to cut a few small slits in the underbelly pan to allow standing water to evacuate?
Old 05-07-06, 04:45 AM
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Damn it Ryan why did you have to move?!?!?! Welp at least i can say you worked on my car. BTW: that engine is out now andI'm running a s513bt blowthrough!

Bump for an amazing thread that's going to help out with my cooling issues!
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I've been reading your post for some time and I have a few questions. How much are you buying your aluminum and what is it 4045 at 40 thousands of an inch is my guess. Also why don't you eliminate your belt system? Get a small motor for your alternator and have no draw off your motor. Anyway looks great I'm thinking about doing this as well, looking forward to your next post.
Old 05-07-06, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
who's welding the aluminum? looks nice jarret.


edit: also, if someone will make those underbelly pans and sell them, they will sell like ******* HOTCAKES... no one believes me!
Would they sell like hot cakes with a $375-$400 price tag?.... probably not!

Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
Damn it Ryan why did you have to move?!?!?! Welp at least i can say you worked on my car. BTW: that engine is out now andI'm running a s513bt blowthrough!

Bump for an amazing thread that's going to help out with my cooling issues!
GO BLOW THROUGH!!!

Originally Posted by Raoc435
I've been reading your post for some time and I have a few questions. How much are you buying your aluminum and what is it 4045 at 40 thousands of an inch is my guess.
The aluminium sheet is 6061 at .063" thick. A 4'x10'shet right now is $125 after taxxes.
Old 05-07-06, 10:36 AM
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Ooohh, that's a nice undertray... Dammit, another thing added to the list of things to do for my car...
Old 05-07-06, 10:52 AM
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Were you able to seal outside elements with the under tray? Such as most dirt and water from being splashed inside the bay.

I need to design mine to seal all locations and use vacuum slits to pull air out of the bay. Want to keep inside clean.
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The aluminium sheet is 6061 at .063" thick. A 4'x10'shet right now is $125 after taxxes.
If you guys need some metal let me know I can aquire you aircraft grade alum titanium or steel, in just about any thinkness the alum is either 4045 or 7075 I can't get big pieces unless I really try but small stuff for brackets and what not I can do.
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More progress

More pics!



Scoop that will isolate the IC:



New rad panel with the side plates for the IC scoop:

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it looks way cooler in person
Old 05-08-06, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Raoc435
Also why don't you eliminate your belt system? Get a small motor for your alternator and have no draw off your motor. ..I'm thinking about doing this as well,

Uhh, maybe due to the Laws of Conservation of Matter and Energy? Let us know how this works out for you.

THAT will be an interesting thread!!!
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wow man lookin really good... Cant wait to see the numbers you put down...
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Yeah, we are guessing by mid to end of the week, we should be wrapping it up. I dont know when I can get it to the dyno, but most likely next week will work.

I gotta get my car outta Mormazda's garage, he just decided to rebuild his motor for the event on the 20th...


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