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Old 02-06-06, 10:14 PM
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I managed 400 on stock ports with a S4 block with 200k miles on it.
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I'll be doing this swap in the near future. Just waiting on the parts to get here.

I'll be using the TII UIM, LIM, and exhaust mani.. with stock S4 turbo.. all going into my 87NA with less than 40k on it with 120+ on both rotors all 3 faces...

Will it be at all possible to use my NA throttle cables? Can I put my NA TPS on the TII throttlebody? What other electrical gremlins should I worry about? I'll be using the NA harness and CPU with an SAFC. Will I need to switch out my AFM or any other electrical components for the SAFC? Boost/Pressure sensor?
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Nope, can't use the N/A cable. You can swap the TPS if you have the actual bracket that holds them.

Keep all of your electronics the same as your ECU (though I'd suggest going over to a TII setup)
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
I've twisted CV's apart on the N/A driveline, broke u-joints, killed some spider gears, and a few other various things at 400whp. Really, you should get a turbo driveline if you expect to make any ammount of power that's decent.
I agree with sonicRat. At 320hp, my N/A tanny has held but then again I do not go above 4000 rpm from a dead stop however, my driveshaft did break on me.
I already bought a t2 trany, driveshaft and differential with rear axels.
Old 02-06-06, 11:29 PM
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how much boost^^ for 320
Old 02-06-06, 11:33 PM
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That's out of stock turbo range.
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
Nope, can't use the N/A cable. You can swap the TPS if you have the actual bracket that holds them.

Keep all of your electronics the same as your ECU (though I'd suggest going over to a TII setup)

Bummer, don't know if the TB has a throttle cable attached to it. Guess I better cross my fingers. So AFM, Boost Sensor, and TPS all stay the same. Is the oil filler pipe going to end up being in the way? Are the BAC's interchangeable?

Sorry going through the book and comparing the differences between the engines. Just looks like a few minor things might be a pain in my *** by using the TII mani's on the NA block.

Most of the swaps and write-ups fail to mention the little things that kill you in the long run. Electronics usually end up being the big one because everyone goes a different route.

I saw in Aaron's write up that he went into the oil pan with his oil return line. Was that ever proven to be a bad idea because there was no gravity pull? It would be nice if some of the links to other writeups made it into the FAQ, instead of just Aaron's.
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Originally Posted by stacher
I agree with sonicRat. At 320hp, my N/A tanny has held but then again I do not go above 4000 rpm from a dead stop however, my driveshaft did break on me.
I already bought a t2 trany, driveshaft and differential with rear axels.

Not sure what your definition of "break" is but my NA driveshaft got totally fubarred at the U-Joint with very little to no power above stock levels.
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I like to drill the front cover and return it to the stock location (oil)
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Originally Posted by DemonicPupil
Not sure what your definition of "break" is but my NA driveshaft got totally fubarred at the U-Joint

Exactly what happened.
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Originally Posted by DemonicPupil
I saw in Aaron's write up that he went into the oil pan with his oil return line. Was that ever proven to be a bad idea because there was no gravity pull? It would be nice if some of the links to other writeups made it into the FAQ, instead of just Aaron's.

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I like to drill the front cover and return it to the stock location (oil)

That is what I did.
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Old 02-07-06, 07:25 AM
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I dunno if you saw this but this is the guide I was following :

http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...rbo+conversion
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Originally Posted by SonicRaT
I managed 400 on stock ports with a S4 block with 200k miles on it.
really?? what kinda turbo did your have and how much boost where you running?
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Originally Posted by DemonicPupil
I saw in Aaron's write up that he went into the oil pan with his oil return line. Was that ever proven to be a bad idea because there was no gravity pull? It would be nice if some of the links to other writeups made it into the FAQ, instead of just Aaron's.
Lots of people complain about it, but I've never experienced any negative effects using it. Ideally the oil drain should be above the pan level, but the world will not come to an end if it's not.

As for more write ups...If someone puts together a good list of them, I'll add it to the FAQ.
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