SonicRaT

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Right off the website:
11540010 RX-7 Turbo 1987-88 TD06SH $3,136.36
Includes - Cast Mani, WG type piping, hoses oil lines and misc. hardware.
11540011 RX-7 Turbo 1989-92 TD06SH $3,136.36
Includes - Cast Mani, WG type piping, hoses oil lines and misc. hardware.


And here's for the honda boiZ:
11550035 Prelude Non-SH 1997-99 TD05/TD06H-18G $3449.00
Inculdes: Cast SUS Mani, FCU, 370 cc inj, Air Intake, piping, hoses oil lines and misc. hardware.


You think you'd at LEAST check their website for something as simple as that, jeez.

Black13B

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the 2nd post in the thread. theres the answers. you didnt want to listen because he had no "resources"

theonlygreat

wow, i used to like the people on this forum. i guess i should just listen to all of those post up there that offered no resources for their answers. and i suppose i'm an unreasonable person to ask you to back up your answers.

Black13B

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no, your unreasonable for not accepting anything OTHER than a perfect "resource".

theonlygreat

i'm not asking for perfect. 1FastT2 said he called greddy. i didn't ask him for the taped conversation. that would have been a perfect resource.

theonlygreat

now everybody start flaming because i wanted a greddy kit that was as extensive as their other kits.

Black13B

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well... nah forget it..

no sense in arguing anymore.. you got your answers..

3isacharm

don't listen to anyone. i talked to the founder of greddy and he said it would bolt right up. he said it didn't come with an intercooler, injectors, or fuel management, but you don't need any of that according to him. he told me it would make well over 300whp.

tell you what, go get it, run on it for a while, and let us know how it goes. and after that, you can come back and listen to the people that helped you, and give them some respect for answering your simple question, rather than biting their heads off. quit barking at everyone because we didn't call greddy for you. if you want to know, call them yourself, or go to their website!

rotarygod

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In the 80's there were several bolt on turbo kits designed specifically for the n/a rotary. Most of these are going to be very hard to find though since most of the companies have either gone out of business or are just not making them anymore. After all the n/a rotary (with the exception of the Renesis) has been gone for a long time now and there is no more demand. These kits weren't designed for high output. Usually in the 7-8 lb. of boost range. One kit came with an air/water intercooler that bolted straight to the throttlebody and the turbo on the passenger side of the engine. The kits were designed to give the car some more get up and go power but nothing extraordinary. Mind Train used to make a turbo kit for the first gen that used a draw through Weber carb setup with no intercooler and provided 8 lbs of boost. Another company offered a similar setup but used a Holley carb. They were out there but most are long gone.

Don't listen to the uneducated when it comes to boost. You can turbocharge anything with any compression level if you know your limits and can tune it properly. Everyone is worried about detonation as they should be. With a stock n/a computer you can run a fairly small turbo (like a stock T-II) at around 6 or 7 lbs or so with nothing more than an intercooler and a rising rate fuel pressure regulator. The proper way to do it though is to use a standalone ecu. Don't bother with the S-AFC bs. You could go higher if you could tune it. Rotary Performance in Dallas has a couple of 400+ hp 3rd gens running '89-'91 n/a 9.7:1 compression rotors on pump gas! The get better low end and they spool the turbo faster too. You wouldn't want to go much higher than this but it can be done. I am working on a big single turbo kit for my streetported GSL-SE. It runs 9.4:1 compression and is a 6 port. I'm only going to take it up to around 350 hp or so but that is plenty fast for a small light car.

The transmission is not going to be an issue if you are good to it. However we as RX-7 owners aren't very nice to them as we like to drive really hard. If you like to dump the clutch at 5500 rpm and then speedshift all the way up through the gears then it will definitely die very quickly. The clutch will probably die first though. If you just drive regularly and step on the gas but are careful when geting off the line quickly and shift carefully, the tranny will be fine. It won't just suddenly fall apart while driving.

theonlygreat

wow, thank you for that insightful post. my thoughts expressed exactly in th second and third paragraphs. which is why i was being so rude to people responding with such suggestions.

13bpower

http://www.hardcore-performance.com

There ya go. Look under "4sale" and then on the scroll bar you will find turbo kits for 86-91 rx7 non-turbos.

autocrash

...lol... makes perfect sense to me....

be a complete *** to anyone who disagrees with your opinions (not to mention arguing that they are expressing their opinions as opposed to *divine* fact)...


...btw, can I buy your chassis after you are done with that turbocharged NON-intercooled engine?

(yes it can work, can you do it though.... ? )

Black13B

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where's all my pics that say n00b?

i've never seen anyone keep chaning their tune so often in the midst of one thread.

converted

theonlygreat:

Rotary Dawg

Right on. How hard is it to call a number?

Frankly why pay around 4k to get a turbo kit for yout N/A when u can buy a TII for less than that?

1987RX7guy

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theonlygreat


all I have to say is: For a 20 year old guy you act like you are 14...I don't make so much of an *** out of myself....If I were going to spend that much money on a turbo kit I would have the intelligence to call the manufacturer and get all the details hammered out on my own not try and have people on the forum do my leg work for me...Seriously though you should just opt for the atkins kit and...no...wait...IMO you don't even deserve to have an RX car you have disgraced yourself and your car.

Santiago

theonlygreat

1. Wasn't going to spend that much on a turbo kit. Just had interest in what it was all about.

2. Greddy is in Cali, i am in Wash. Not Going to call long distance for something i can probably hear on the forum.

3. Am not acting like i'm 14, just expecting a little bit more from you guys. I didn't want to hear the same old **** about reliablility and such because I've read all that **** and i wasn't asking about it.

4. Didn't plan on doing this without an Intercooler either.

5. Didn't make an *** out of myself because I never flamed anybody, just asked for them to back up their crap that they were talking. I had no reason to believe any answers given to me weren't just assumptions about the kit. So I ask you to support your evidence. Not hard to do. Simply saying I read this at www.here-is-the-info.com would have been fine.

6. For christ sake quit posting on a thread that is already over and done with. That is unless you have some good information about a turbo kit for an N/A. Which you don't, because they don't exist anymore.

1987RX7guy

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Well about high boost being able to run on high compression engines this is on piston engines which are not so vonurable to ping like out rotarys one bad ping on our cars and boom! that is why it would be very important to have adequate cooling for the intake charge before it gets into the engine or have lower compression rotors.

You did make an *** out of your self because you were acting like an ******* and you did insult people. Oh and I don't think any of us here stand by our PC;s with stacks of articles and specific information for every possible scenario you or I could pose to them so don't expect sources for your responses because many of us respond from work or school and only have time to give you a generalresponse instead of going into detail on all that ****. Don't subject people to a standard that you yourself will not adhear to that makes you a hipocrit(sp?). I am sure Graddy has an E-mail account for you to send inquiries to did you even think of that.


In the future I will remember to bring my notes on every thing I have looked at to your threads because if I can't back it up it is not true.

Atkins should be enough for your forced induction interests on your N/a.

Santiago

Black13B

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im sure people got alot to say but lets do what i did earlier..

Digi7ech

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Well the main reason why most kits won't work on a N/A would be the clearance issue.

I can't remember if it was Aaron Cake or someone else but to connect the TII manifold to an N/A block they had to have a spacer/adapter and then they had to cut the frame rail a little due to space.

As long as you are willing to get a custom manifold made which would fit in there then a Turbo is somewhat possible.

Then you need Injectors, managment,intercooler and probably something else but I'm too lazy to scroll up.

A kid in my town has a GXL that he made a manifold for and is running like 5 pounds. I even think he was running the stock ECU. He was in process of building the car. I can't remember details though.

theonlygreat

you are entitled to your opinion. and a high comp pistion engine may not be sensative to pinging, but it is sensative to blowing it's head. the greddy kits for high comp piston engines only run at about 6-7 psi of boost. which is perfectly acceptable on an NA rx7. and again i understand the importance of cooling the intake charge with an intercooler, but i was not asking about that. i already knew that. maybe i should start a thread with things i already know. then proceed to ask the question.


A Couple Things I know:

1. Tuning is the most important part of going fast, especially when you are talking boosted N/A

2. Keeping everything from overheating is important especially when you are talking boosted N/A

3. You guys don't think the N/A transmission can handle much more HP than stock

4. An upgraded fuel system is important when boosting your N/A

5. You guys are just mad because i was using Honda stuff as an example. Mentioning Honda without dissing Honda in the Rx-7 forum is sacrilege

6. High Comp + Boost = BOOM in all motors with out proper tuning/attention to detail.

7. People on this forum HATE when anybody with under 1000 posts talks about putting a turbo on your N/A

8. People on this forum believe TII's are widely available to anybody that owns an N/A at little cost above what they paid for their N/A.

9. TII's are not widely available and are not any less than $5000 which is over double the cost of my N/A.

Black13B

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omg

you shouldnt have bothered even posting

ill keep this quick

forum members hate it when people who share FACT get told they are only expressing OPINION.

come on man

you want answers, we give them to you, and then you say "well thats your opinion"

why bother even ******* asking anyone then!!?!

theonlygreat

this is unproductive. maybe an admin could close this thread i see no more useful information ever being posted in this here.

theonlygreat

oh yeah, and good to see you're back in it black13B. FACT is only FACT when you have proof.

1987RX7guy

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1 and 2 True
3 I did not say anything about the N/a tranny they can handle a lot of abuse but these guys probably think about 12 or 14 pounds of boost when you are only going to be runing like 5 or 6 on the N/a
4 I think you should do a lot of research on that one or ask Aaron about what he used
5 You are entitled to your oppinion but I said nothing about hondas I though we were talking about Greddy not Honda
6 Yes true
7 I am new also and you should not generalize things like that. I don't care about your post count age background or anything else other than the information and statements you provide to me and the rest of us on the forum.
8 I know that a TII is not a common car or cheap either and I never mentioned anything about the pointlessness of swaping or converting an N/a to a TII
9 same as 8


Santiago