So, here's the thing.

I have a NA S5 FC. Only 55k miles on it -- works wonderfully.

I wanted to get a Turbo FC but they are impossible to find where I live, so I ended up buying a NA one, hoping that I could buy some aftermarket turbo kit, but well, there isn't any.

So I have been reading a lot lately on Turbo-ing a NA engine (Aaron Cake's guide, FC3SPro articles, etc.), and I've been looking online for the parts I should buy. I am not looking for S5 Turbo performance, I want more.

I know what 99% of you guys will say. "Get a T2 and find a nice turbo upgrade kit" -- well, that's impossible. Why? It's illegal to import engines down here where I live, so getting a T2 engine is out of the question, completely.

So... well, I don't know much about a lot of things, but this is what my "shopping cart" looks at the moment:

Garrett GT3582R Turbo
GReddy 2-Row R-Spec FMIC
Blitz Dual Drive BOV
Tial 46mm Wastegate
800cc Fuel Injectors
Walbro Fuel Pump
Koyo Radiator
MSD 6A Ignition System
A'PEXi AVC-R Boost Controller
A'PEXi Power FC EMS
Pineapple Racing 6-Port Sleeve Inserts

Am I missing anything? Any of you believe there is a weak link here? Or maybe some worthlessly over-powered element? Am I being very ambitious? Or maybe not ambitious enough?

I plan to rebuild, and intake/exhaust port the engine before installing all the previously mentioned modifications.

Will the NA 13B cope with all this modifications? Or will ir simply blow to pieces?

I also plan to do suspension and brake upgrades, but these are the most *crucial* modifications I believe.

Any kind of feedback/information/recommendations will be greatly appreciated.


~D

 

1) The Power FC adaptor harnesses are for TII's so I think you're out of luck there.

2)The N/A engine won't be as reliable as a TII engine under higher then stock power levels (and the TII engine isn't *that* reliable at higher then stock levels )

3) Sure, all those parts sound nice on paper - but you've got to make them fit the engine. Meaning you're going to need to fab an exhaust manifold and possibly and intake manifold, exhaust and many other little nick-nack items so if fabbing isn't your bag - you better have deep pockets or lots of friends in the business.

4) Pick a power goal, a budget and a purpose for the vehicle. Otherwise you'll endup overbuilding certain aspects and under building other (possibly vital) ones.

5) Look into simply building a TII engine. If importing and engine swapping is out of the question, thats fine. You can get some TII engine bits and piece together an engine out of the two. Use some turbo rotors, four port irons and go from there. If you're goign to rebuild, there's not a whole lot of sense in spendign the money on the N/A setup unless you plan on ONLY ever going that far with this engine/car.

6)Good luck, research and questions are your friend

 

Hey I heard there is good info on this subject at neo-geo.com

Just kidding

Good luck and worst case scenario you could just build up a bad *** NA, regardless keep me posted on this subject I am interested in this myself, also welcome aboard.

 

What would not being able to install the PFC mean?


I'm aware of this, hehe.

I am interested in performing as much "safety mods" as needed.


I have deep pockets and my father owns a car repair garage, so this wouldn't be an issue really.


Power goal... I would say, between 300~400hp.

Is the setup I was thinking about very off? Not enough? or maybe too much?


I could import engine internals/part, that's not a problem at all -- the only thing is, I believe the Engine Identification Code is in the front iron. That I cannot change/replace -- that code (and consequently, iron) has to be kept... what T2 engine parts should I get in this case?


Hehe, thank you very much -- and that's why I'm here asking after all


~D

 

A few things that put a red flag in my setup are.

1. Go standalone ems!
2. Turbo has t small of a hot side the 35R isn't the best choice on a FC motor I would suggest something with a much bigger Ar like 1.12 to 1.35 range. One thing that sucks is the exhaust diffusers you have in the NA motor it real hurts the flow and EGT's thus effecting power but I do not know a way around this right yet.
3. The MSD system is crap IMO use the LS1 coils with a standalone EMS much cheaper to.
4. You will not be able to use the 6pt system without a custom exhaust manifold like turblowns and a auxiliary activation component.

I would suggest getting ahold of Elliot at turblown.net and use his custom NA manifold on your motor and pick out a larger turbo and he ha a really nice WG you can use as well.

 

I just mailed the guys at Turblown.net -- let's see what they have to say on the subject.

-- btw, I forgot to add, emissions aren't a problem down here. Cars aren't tested at all.

 

buy it all as pieces. rotors and housings and what not