The truth about a n/a to turbo swap in the 86 to 88's
#26
Icemack> Ok I will take your word that there is
differences between 87 and 88.
This is the first n/a to TII swap that I have done
with the exception of the 20b I put in the 1988 ae.
all I know is what I have in front of me, I have a 87 TII motor
and its harness, a 88 n/a car, a 1987 mazda factory
shop manual, and wiring manual, it shows the x-15 and
x-16 plugs and all the connections to these plugs, it
matches what I have in front of me on both the motor
harness, and the car harness, it shows what wires are
in each location of the plugs for both the TII and n/a, thus
I assumed that the 87 and 88 were basically the same "in
these plugs" the only thing I can see is if there are
differences between u.s. and Canadian cars, we could be arguing
about what you have in the u.s and what we have in Canada.
As for any remarks about attitude, I don't think I have taken
any kind of offensive, or demeaning posture and do not intend to.
The information on the rotaryresurrection site is a great resource
that is much appreciated, but in my case didn't contain all the
information my application required. Lets try to determine where
the differences are before we declare war.
matt
differences between 87 and 88.
This is the first n/a to TII swap that I have done
with the exception of the 20b I put in the 1988 ae.
all I know is what I have in front of me, I have a 87 TII motor
and its harness, a 88 n/a car, a 1987 mazda factory
shop manual, and wiring manual, it shows the x-15 and
x-16 plugs and all the connections to these plugs, it
matches what I have in front of me on both the motor
harness, and the car harness, it shows what wires are
in each location of the plugs for both the TII and n/a, thus
I assumed that the 87 and 88 were basically the same "in
these plugs" the only thing I can see is if there are
differences between u.s. and Canadian cars, we could be arguing
about what you have in the u.s and what we have in Canada.
As for any remarks about attitude, I don't think I have taken
any kind of offensive, or demeaning posture and do not intend to.
The information on the rotaryresurrection site is a great resource
that is much appreciated, but in my case didn't contain all the
information my application required. Lets try to determine where
the differences are before we declare war.
matt
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I thought the point of the forum was to post your opinon, experences, knowledge, and ideas, this is exactly what Matt is doing. Why flame him? I know Kevin, and icemark know their ****, but Matt has the wiring diagram to prove his statements. I have not added the new wires except for the alternator plug, and my car runs fine, but it's good to know about them
Right or wrong, that's my oponin and I am sticking to it.
Right or wrong, that's my oponin and I am sticking to it.
#28
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Originally posted by Mark'sMazda
I thought the point of the forum was to post your opinon, experences, knowledge, and ideas, this is exactly what Matt is doing. Why flame him? I know Kevin, and icemark know their ****, but Matt has the wiring diagram to prove his statements. I have not added the new wires except for the alternator plug, and my car runs fine, but it's good to know about them
Right or wrong, that's my oponin and I am sticking to it.
I thought the point of the forum was to post your opinon, experences, knowledge, and ideas, this is exactly what Matt is doing. Why flame him? I know Kevin, and icemark know their ****, but Matt has the wiring diagram to prove his statements. I have not added the new wires except for the alternator plug, and my car runs fine, but it's good to know about them
Right or wrong, that's my oponin and I am sticking to it.
Every one seems to think that you can just take
a TII motor with all its wiring etc, and plug it into a
non turbo car and go.
this is not true!
a TII motor with all its wiring etc, and plug it into a
non turbo car and go.
this is not true!
and then
I am sure that the swap could be done without doing it right and it would work,
The simple fact that he can't even read the manual and see the difference between an 87 and 88 makes his claims very suspect to me (and I am sure others) right there. heck the different injectors between the 86-87 and the 88 and wiring differences and pin differences found even in a Haynes should tell him that.
Now if he started the thread with: hey these are the problems I found when putting in the wrong year motor in this car and not changing all the harnesses, and how I got around them...here are my wiring diagrams.
But I don't believe that we flamed him in anyway, despite the questionable information he has posted.
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