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12-04-02, 09:23 PM
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Actually, I DO do these mods. I just don't know of the results. I've ported my port matched intake, TB Mod, E-5/6&VDI etc etc etc. I got my hands dirty and have done them. Moreover, I've done mods for/with friends (oh yeah, I have over a dozen FC owning friends... didn't I mention?)
Just because the car doesn't run, doesn't mean I haven't done the mods. When's the last time you've contributed ANYTHING to this forum other than useless repetitive questions in the begining, and a holier than thou attitude as of late (reminds me of Justin). You have done NOTHING that I CAN'T do. What you've done, isn't much more than anyone else has. You're not running mid-13's so, until you have a 13-sec timeslip shut your mouth about how fast you claim to be.
Now go and fix the problem you have with your car, because you did something wrong while "modding" it. Oh wait, it's just the cars INSANE POWER! :jerkoff:
Just because the car doesn't run, doesn't mean I haven't done the mods. When's the last time you've contributed ANYTHING to this forum other than useless repetitive questions in the begining, and a holier than thou attitude as of late (reminds me of Justin). You have done NOTHING that I CAN'T do. What you've done, isn't much more than anyone else has. You're not running mid-13's so, until you have a 13-sec timeslip shut your mouth about how fast you claim to be.
Now go and fix the problem you have with your car, because you did something wrong while "modding" it. Oh wait, it's just the cars INSANE POWER! :jerkoff:
12-04-02, 09:39 PM
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I get 69% AFM readings (I can view them via my s-afc) on a stock port engine no ported nothings just a mt true dual exhaust, I had to lean it out 15% for those readings 
So I believe it is possible he is close to maxing afm out.
So I believe it is possible he is close to maxing afm out.
12-04-02, 11:14 PM
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My offer to race you still stands. And so does my point.
I think it's really funny how you seem to think there's something wrong with my mods and how thats causing a problem with a completely stock component. Two of them in fact... My car runs just fine unless I really slam on the gas and dump the clutch between gears. I've narrowed it down to the afm. You just can't handle someone disagreeing with you and calling you on it. Can we see some picks of your work? I have pics of mine.
I think it's really funny how you seem to think there's something wrong with my mods and how thats causing a problem with a completely stock component. Two of them in fact... My car runs just fine unless I really slam on the gas and dump the clutch between gears. I've narrowed it down to the afm. You just can't handle someone disagreeing with you and calling you on it. Can we see some picks of your work? I have pics of mine.
12-05-02, 12:27 AM
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OK be nice guys! We are all RX-7 people and should be helping not hurting each other.
Jimmy: I'll gladly show you everything I've done with the single tb on both my cars. One with a modded stock manifold and the other custom built from aluminum. Don't start a fight with Liquid Anarchy please! He does know his ****!
As a general guidline for building custom manifolds: don't do it with the stock ecu unless you plan on changing to an aftermarket in the near future. I did make mine work good but not even close to its potential with a stand alone unit. Next I have a highly modded streetport GSL-SE that weighs much less than a 2nd gen (which I also have). It has the largest streetport possible, intake, exhaust, direct fire, etc. With the stock ecu and manifold it ran high 14's. With the new manifold and standalone it should do low 14's to about 14 flat in the quarter. Not near fast enough to keep up with a 320+ hp Z-28 or equivalent car. It's fast enough to dust all the n/a Honda's and some of the slower forced induction ones but I won't go after the bigger dogs. Remember my car is lighter. I did beat a V-8 powered 1990 Camaro RS the other day but they run 17's stock so don't mix them up with the fast guys. It'll cost you.
Jimmy: I'll gladly show you everything I've done with the single tb on both my cars. One with a modded stock manifold and the other custom built from aluminum. Don't start a fight with Liquid Anarchy please! He does know his ****!
As a general guidline for building custom manifolds: don't do it with the stock ecu unless you plan on changing to an aftermarket in the near future. I did make mine work good but not even close to its potential with a stand alone unit. Next I have a highly modded streetport GSL-SE that weighs much less than a 2nd gen (which I also have). It has the largest streetport possible, intake, exhaust, direct fire, etc. With the stock ecu and manifold it ran high 14's. With the new manifold and standalone it should do low 14's to about 14 flat in the quarter. Not near fast enough to keep up with a 320+ hp Z-28 or equivalent car. It's fast enough to dust all the n/a Honda's and some of the slower forced induction ones but I won't go after the bigger dogs. Remember my car is lighter. I did beat a V-8 powered 1990 Camaro RS the other day but they run 17's stock so don't mix them up with the fast guys. It'll cost you.
12-05-02, 12:27 AM
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ever compare that to a stock car? it might be somewhere around 67% you have no baseline.
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12-05-02, 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Jimmy325i
Physically impossible huh? So the air entering the intake has no mass of its own?
Physically impossible huh? So the air entering the intake has no mass of its own?
All I know is that I have a problem with my afm flooding my engine at lower rpms if I hammer on it too hard.
12-05-02, 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by Jimmy325i
It's called ported everything.... All ports are ported. Even the 6 ports holes are ported. The TII intermediate housing has bigger runners than the n/a does, then those are ported out. The lower intake manifold is port matched to the runners, and the manifold itself is ported for better flow. Its a bit more than just the intermediate housing and bolt ons.
As for taking a camera to the track... it's 14 degrees here and snowing. Tracks have been closed since the week prior to me getting my engine broken in. I was really hoping to be able to get some times this fall but it didn't happen.
Liquid, the whole comment you don't understand is that you have posted as if you do these mods yet your car doesn't and hasn't ever run. You have no emperical knowledge to share with anyone here.
It's called ported everything.... All ports are ported. Even the 6 ports holes are ported. The TII intermediate housing has bigger runners than the n/a does, then those are ported out. The lower intake manifold is port matched to the runners, and the manifold itself is ported for better flow. Its a bit more than just the intermediate housing and bolt ons.
As for taking a camera to the track... it's 14 degrees here and snowing. Tracks have been closed since the week prior to me getting my engine broken in. I was really hoping to be able to get some times this fall but it didn't happen.
Liquid, the whole comment you don't understand is that you have posted as if you do these mods yet your car doesn't and hasn't ever run. You have no emperical knowledge to share with anyone here.
As for your AFM being "slammed back" by inertia... Total BS. My car is a hell of a lot faster than yours, and it doesn't happen on my car. You also can't claim that the inertial forces from flooring the car are greater than the forces created from hitting a purged shot of 160 hp at once, more hp and torque than your engine alone makes at the listed low rpms, let alone with 10+ psi of boost.
"I don't need no stinking turbo to get well over 200hp on the ground." Prove this with a dyno, or shut the hell up. I don't claim anythign higher than 200 hp at the flywheel until I can prove it.
"You just can't handle someone disagreeing with you and calling you on it".
We disagree, and we are calling you on it.
12-05-02, 08:20 AM
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Jimmy, what do you want pics of???
Oh, and Suds7... it was a perfectly good question. I'm sure the AFM rating, like HP, varies from car to car; depending on the car's condition (a recently rebuilt {but still stock} engine with high compression numbers would pull more air than a carbon-loaded engine w/ 140,000 on it)
Moreover, and more importantly, you have a S5 (say it with me, S-E-R-I-E-S F-I-V-E) you have a different type of AFM than he does. S4 AFM's are more restrictive, thereby giving different readigns for the same modifications. Don't be a retard... noobies!
Oh, and Suds7... it was a perfectly good question. I'm sure the AFM rating, like HP, varies from car to car; depending on the car's condition (a recently rebuilt {but still stock} engine with high compression numbers would pull more air than a carbon-loaded engine w/ 140,000 on it)
Moreover, and more importantly, you have a S5 (say it with me, S-E-R-I-E-S F-I-V-E) you have a different type of AFM than he does. S4 AFM's are more restrictive, thereby giving different readigns for the same modifications. Don't be a retard... noobies!
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12-05-02, 09:40 AM
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Turob's take time to spool and draw the air in gradually at first. If you would think about the circumstances surrounding my problem, you would realize that it takes a very sudden change in air speed to cause the meter to peg. This is my problem. So i mis-stated the problem at first. big deal... Its air speed related... yay... it still happens and it appears that I have the only car doing it.
I haven't been to a dyno yet or i would gladly post slips. The car is destined for hybernation within the next couple weeks so all work will resume on it in the spring. I hope to be installing the stand alone ecu at that time and my custom manifold.
I really don't care what any of you say. I know what my car runs with and out runs. I don't give a rats *** if any of you believe me or not.
1st gen eclipse turbo runing 15psi scares you guys? Not me... I've beaten them. SS camaro... hold with them. Most domestic muscle... I can raise my nose up while tailgating them as they launch. Don't believe me? C'mon up here and I'll gladly give demo's. The little rice guys in their hondas and celicas refuse to race me. Oh darn! Say what you will, I don't care....
I haven't been to a dyno yet or i would gladly post slips. The car is destined for hybernation within the next couple weeks so all work will resume on it in the spring. I hope to be installing the stand alone ecu at that time and my custom manifold.
I really don't care what any of you say. I know what my car runs with and out runs. I don't give a rats *** if any of you believe me or not.
1st gen eclipse turbo runing 15psi scares you guys? Not me... I've beaten them. SS camaro... hold with them. Most domestic muscle... I can raise my nose up while tailgating them as they launch. Don't believe me? C'mon up here and I'll gladly give demo's. The little rice guys in their hondas and celicas refuse to race me. Oh darn! Say what you will, I don't care....
12-05-02, 09:52 AM
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Jimmy, you have another PM.
You run nitrous, I'll see if I can come across some for myself. I'll run my car vs. yours (timeslips) no matter what. No excuses. If you win, it's because your 6-port (can't say N/A because yours won't be) is faster than my 6-port.
You run nitrous, I'll see if I can come across some for myself. I'll run my car vs. yours (timeslips) no matter what. No excuses. If you win, it's because your 6-port (can't say N/A because yours won't be) is faster than my 6-port.
12-05-02, 10:10 AM
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all the statements I've made are N/A... I'm still up in the air about juice or turbo. neither is very friendly on autox tracks but I'm still debating both power adders to push me over the 400 mark at the wheels.
right now its all motor.
scathart, you've got a really big ******* ego to think there will never be anyone faster than you. I might be new to rotary, but this is by far not my first car. Been spining wrenches since I was 5 and that was 22 years ago.
right now its all motor.
scathart, you've got a really big ******* ego to think there will never be anyone faster than you. I might be new to rotary, but this is by far not my first car. Been spining wrenches since I was 5 and that was 22 years ago.
12-05-02, 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by Jimmy325i
all the statements I've made are N/A... I'm still up in the air about juice or turbo. neither is very friendly on autox tracks but I'm still debating both power adders to push me over the 400 mark at the wheels.
right now its all motor.
scathart, you've got a really big ******* ego to think there will never be anyone faster than you. I might be new to rotary, but this is by far not my first car. Been spining wrenches since I was 5 and that was 22 years ago.
all the statements I've made are N/A... I'm still up in the air about juice or turbo. neither is very friendly on autox tracks but I'm still debating both power adders to push me over the 400 mark at the wheels.
right now its all motor.
scathart, you've got a really big ******* ego to think there will never be anyone faster than you. I might be new to rotary, but this is by far not my first car. Been spining wrenches since I was 5 and that was 22 years ago.
But honestly, I'll never lose to a street-legal N/A. Nitrous or not on the N/A, I run MASSIVE shots and have a mugh higher power baseline to start with.
There's a difference between ego and realism.
12-05-02, 08:33 PM
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the best N/A we have seen on here is 176 at the wheels... that is with ported everything and tons of work... every single N/A owner gets disapointed when they hit the dyno...
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