darkwaveboi

Alrite, For all you N/A peeps out there who are thinking of doing a TII swap and try to say it cant be that expensive..here ya go

Part followed by year.
I own a 91 N/A and am on the way to being a TII

TII Hood '87: 200
TII ECU '89: 75
TII Wiring Harness: '89: 50
TII Transmission: '89: 270
TII Driveline '88: 250
(driveshaft, LSD, Halfshafts)
TII Starter '88: 25
TII Clutch Slave '88: 25
TII Brake Booster '88: 10-20 (pending)
TII TID '?? : Email me with an offer
TII Throttle Cable: '88: 10-20 (buying w/ Brake Booster)
TII Engine : roughly 1200-1300 shipped
TII Boost Sensor '89: 60
Walbro Fuel Pump :140
Apexi Boost Guage :130
Custom DP :150
Install----------------------400 for everything


Total ~~ $3080 (Im giving the person all the NA things he swaps off to keep in exchange for that price. Keep in mind im 17 and this is my Daily Driver)

There ya go, Thats around how much i'll spend..so enless your a cheap ***, your lookin to around that much. Dont forget an Air/fuel controller, upgraded 2ndaries, a FCD, and a boost controller...those add more..This is just a base for spenditures to turn it INTO a TII (aside from brakes i know )

Jeff

BlackRx7

Well I bought my 88 TII for 2500 with a rebuilt motor with 30k on it...............

darkwaveboi

hehe exactly. It does give me a great satisfaction doing the swap...putting all my hard work into making the money to do this swap is my right of passage into the world of turbo's (as my brother says

Matlock

Congrats! Sounds like fun, the hard work is what pays off. Very useful post, give me an idea of what it's going to cost. Seems like you did o.k. price wise, where did you get your stuff?

DuX

personally: waste of money.
Save your self the time and effort and just buy a tII. Then you'll have two sevens. OR even better save your cash don't get a t2 and just save for if the na breaks down.

Matlock

I don't understand the why evryone says that. Everytime you buy a used car there are expenses brakes, hoses, just different ****. If you know your car and have done simple things such as brakes and crap. Then go buy a TII you have to start all over again. I know my N/A for example needed some TLC, it got it and is in damm good shape considering its age inside and out. I will admit its not for everyone, but not a complete waste of money.

darkwaveboi

Matlock: I got mostly all the things from this board, a lot of items i actually got in person.

DuX: You are indefinatably allowed to express your person opinion. But what happens when TII's become scarce (as S5's have become) and most of them turn into parts cars? It is in fact true that buying a TII stock will save you around $1500, if not more, but there are people out there converting MR2 N/a to turbo, and not to meantion the millions of 240's doing SR and CA swaps...and civics doing B18 and B16 swaps when they could just buy a used vtech integra. Even though i have spent money i could have used on buying a new car, i do not regret what im doing 100%.

Jeff

HALO

This was a good post.

we appreciate the info.

BDoty311

Cheaper if you find one at a junkyard, or if you find a cheap parts car( ya... right). A hood at my local junkyard is like $40 and the turbo is $50. Just as an example on price saving.

Megaspeed7

Don't forget how much cheaper your insurance is going to be with a N/A VIN number. I also have an 86 car converted for an LT1 and 6 speed and I can't wait to get that car together and title it N/A (hehe it IS N/A).
Patrick

KNONFS

iTrader: (14)

Well I was going to reply right after the initial post, but I tought it wasn't necessary. Know that the cost of swap Vs a T2 has come up................

You need to subtract the following to the swap, since those items must be done wether you are doing a swap or own a T2, or they must be added to the total cost of owning a T2!

Walbro Fuel Pump :140
Apexi Boost Guage :130
TII Wiring Harness: '89: 50 (You can use the NA one, all you need to do is add the knock sensor cable, and add some more cable to the 02 sensor)

Thats $320 you need to subtract from your total cost or add it to the total cost of buying a T2!

IMHO it is not a waste of money and better yet if you perform the job yourself............

DuX

ok that puts everything in perspective, and i respect your decision.

scathcart

These still exist with a TII swap. He didn't touch on brakes, or hoses (you are using a used engine...). All of the other car maintenance costs still exist, and despite all listed, you're still not at the same performance level as a TII. NA's have a more restrictive exhaust...

scathcart

WTF are you talkign about? To build a stock TII, you need a stock fuel TII fuel pump, a stock boost gauge, and a TII wiring harness. Buy a TII and all of these come with it. Why would you add the cost of parts to a car that already comes with it???
Most people just decide to upgrade to a Walboro and an aftermarket boost gauge rather than paying the same amount of money for stock parts.

But you would definitely not add the cost of a fuel pump, boost gauge, and wiring harness to the cost of buying a TII. Those are considered mods!

And you do need a bigger than stock pump, and a boost gauge.

The only one I'll give you is the NA wiring harness mod, and even that is a little sketchy. Regardless, your point is moot.

Do NOT subtract $320, as this makes no sense.

Matlock

No those things don't exsist unless you drop the engine or your brakes or brake your hoses. What I was saying is that much like myself you have already done brakes and rotor all the interior pieces are together. No you can't say that to me. It's like starting over with a whole new set of little annoying problems. There will be problems with the swap yes, but it won't be my brake rotors are *ucked or I need a new center console or whatever.
Exhaust that not even an issue, the N/A exhaust wont even work, except for y pipe and mufflers. The rest is useless.

scathcart

Ever hear of getting your car checked out by a mechanic before you buy it, and then using parts that need to be replaced to lower the buying price? None of my cars needed new rotors or whatever without me knowing about it when I bought the car.

How about getting the car checked out by a bodyshop too.

I would never buy a car and pay asking price without knowing what kind of condition it was in...

As for exhaust, if you read above, he was going to have a custom downpipe made to fit up to his stock main catalytic convertor or downpipe. So yes, the exhaust would work.

Matlock

Wow! I don't use mechanic. I consider myself capable of making the decision of crap or not. I am not going to argue because in my case and many other it is cheap to do the swap. Buying a used car and expecting brake rotors, pads, interior pieces to all be up to new standard isn't going to happen.
I am simply trying to say for me personally it's cheaper. No one can convice me other wise. Unless there is a TII out there for 3k that has suspension mods and a perfect ineterior, brakes, low miles, shiney paint, and is remotely local to me. It's cheaper! For me!

scathcart

I don't have a mechanic work on my car either, but other than the engine, these cars are pretty standard. ANY mechanic can find out other problems with the car. Often running back to my house while spec'ing a car isn't viable (after say... a 6 hour filght?), so getting a mechanic to pop off the wheels, inspect the exhaust, etc. and a autobody tech to check the underbody and frame is usually the best bet.

As for the swap being cheaper for you, it still probably doesn't make sense. With your listed car, you could sell it for about $3500. Add the $3000 to the swap for that, and you're at $6500.

If you couldn't buy a decent TII for $6500, you've done something wrong. I didn't pay that much for my modded S5 TII, perfect interior.

BDoty311

Ha! A used car with no problems... They dont excist! I agree I recently had my car painted and I'm not bought to sell my car to get a turbo II, that is if I could even find one because they are rare. And if I found one with no problems it would be around $7000+ easy.

Matlock

I wasn't considering selling my car, but yes I will agree with you if I did I could get a pretty sweet TII with an extra 3k. I wish I would have originally purchased a TII, but I couldn't really afford it, still can't (college). Ultimatly I probably will just buy a TII, it may not be cheaper but it is easier.
Thanks for the fun conversation scathcart.

scathcart

Deifnitely. I just realised how close you are to me... Where are you going to college?

Dak

I have plans to hopefully do a TII swap on my car.I too had thought about just buying a TII but I would have to start over as I have already done some suspension mods and all I need is the 2.5 inch downpipe from RB and my exhaust will bolt right up(though I would eventually go full 3 inch).I also have a TII parts car for driveline parts unfortunately the ecu and turbo were gone by the time I got it.

Matlock

Pierce Community College. Yeah I just realized that too.

skigz

i can get u a deal for a j spec. 550. pm me for more info

KNONFS

iTrader: (14)

Easy cowboy,

Since you want to get "Technical"

- You definetly need a T2 pump at least, which you can buy for way less than $100, so instaead of deducting 140, deduct $100 for a used T2 pump. My bad on this one!

- The boost gauge on the T2 is useless, having that in mind, you should add it to the cost of buying a T2 For the mods he will have at the time he finish the whole swap, an aftermarket fuel pump would be a great idea but not necessary. A fuel pump rewire comes to mind!

Cool so its not $320 but $280 you need to subtract to the total cost of the swap, just to have "similar T2 setup" on a NA.