View Poll Results: TII or MKII MR2 or Intensem1?
FC3S TII 87-91 (3-6K)
90
68.70%
MR2 MKII 91-95 (4-11k)
32
24.43%
Intense M1 Downhill bike (9k Pro version)
9
6.87%
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TII or MR2
07-03-02, 03:35 PM
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wow, i was looking for the exact same cars. i rode in my friend's mr2turbo a couple years ago...felt like i was in a cruise missle. then its motor blew, after 2 years and a whole lotta money it was finally done and pushing 500rwhp it threw a rod a week after it got back, then when it was rebuilt again(a lot quicker) he sold it, then when the guy who bought it took it to texas it caught fire and was totalled at the inspection place...anyway, i could find hardly any of either car, when i came upon an 87 turboII with only 5k miles on a rebuilt motor, with there being no mr2s in sight it was pretty easy decision......not to mention there is A LOT more room in the rx7 than the mr2, and (i'm assuming although it seems like it due to midenginess) easier to work on.....but damn those SW20's are badass
07-03-02, 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by 3engineRex
wonder if i'll get flamed for this oh well
ever considered a 85+ fiero gt fastback, shouldn't cost more than 3k, mid 15s stock and for another 2k you can drop a v8 in there(remember the car was originally designed for a v8, hell the engine mounts are already there for it)
wonder if i'll get flamed for this oh well
ever considered a 85+ fiero gt fastback, shouldn't cost more than 3k, mid 15s stock and for another 2k you can drop a v8 in there(remember the car was originally designed for a v8, hell the engine mounts are already there for it)
On the other hand, my friend had a fiero and it was the BIGGEST POS I'VE EVER SEEN!!
07-04-02, 10:52 AM
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It largely depends on what you want. You want to be different, get the TII. The MR2 has a lot going for it though. Those turbo motors are very very strong and from what I hear, also very dependable. You are bound to run into problems with the rotary, it just happens. Personally, I would go for the TII. But, thats obviously a biased opinion. 
07-04-02, 12:29 PM
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damn! 16 and can consider an MR2T? you suck!!!! (just kidding )
well, i have both an MR2T and an Rx-7 (Gen I, though). I have driven Gen II cars and i think i can speak on them a bit ...
here goes ... both cars are fast! both cars are fun!
i think your decision basically comes down to what you expect from a car.
if you want to drag race just for fun, then the MR2 will do just fine, but if you plan to take it serious levels of competition, go with the Rx-7. in my opinion, the Rx-7 is better suited for it in a few key ways ... the MR2 may be rear drive, but it basically has a front-drive tranny in it ... the shifter and tranny in the Rx-7 make for much quicker shifting without modifictaion. also, it doesn't take much to get the MR2 to lift the front wheel in a serious launch ... it says a lot for the traction (because the M has better traction) but it's a bit unnerving, escpecially if you're not used to it.
as far as power and mods go ... there is a lot more out there for the T2 than there is for the MR2. also, the MR2 parts usually cost a bit more.
in terms of ultimate power, the MR2 will push around 600 HP and still remain streetable - BUT ... and a very BIG BUT!!!! ... you WILL pay for it. i mean, you can easily rack up about $20G's in mods and still need stuff to fine tune relaibility into the motor. in my experiences thus far, the 3SGTE is damn near indestructible as long as you use your head ... they cost about $1500 to $2000 more (than a rotary) to build, but unlike the rotary, you don't have to do it all in one shot. the stock engine will take 400 HP with just bolts ons ... but i would not recommend doing that because you will run into reliability problems without preparing the engine for that level of power. another point to consider, is that the stock tranny will self-destruct in short order after you tip over the 400 HP mark! so that is a limiting factor ...
the Rx-7 can handle 600 HP, too - but i think 450-500 is about as far as you should go for the street, because over that ... you really have to stay on point to keep the engine from grenading! also ... again, this is just my opinion ... they don't seem to be as driveable as the MR2 when the power starts to get stratospheric (13B rotaries and torque don't have the best relationship - that's just their nature) don't get me wrong .. they move and they move quick ... but you've got to slip the clutch a lot more than in an MR2T.
in terms of handling, i must say that ultimately, i like the MR2 better. there's talk about lift-throttle oversteer, but the truth is that both the MR2 and the Rx-7 oversteer ... in fact the you'll get the Rx sideways a lot quicker than you'll get the MR2, but ... the difference is that the Rx-7 is more predictable. both are relatively easy to control (they both have good steering) ... but the MR2 does NOT like bumpy surfaces (especially when you need to brake or turn quickly)
now keep in mind that what i've said so far is just if you have the budget for that kind of performance ... if all you want is a car to drive around and maybe get an intake and exhaust ... then they are pretty even.
however ... as much as i love my MR2 and it WILL kick my Rx-7's ***!!!! - i still think the Rx-7 is a LOT more fun to drive.
good luck and hopefully this can help you make your decision. just consider this ... BE VERY CAREFUL ... i'm not saying that you can't know how to drive at 16, but take my word for it ... it's very easy to get yourself in a world of trouble with a N/A Rx-7 - much less a turbocharged Rx- or MR2! just looking out ... take it for what its worth.
(by the way ... at this rate, this means you should graduate to Ferrari by the time you're 30! and then there's no where else to go ...
)
J~
)well, i have both an MR2T and an Rx-7 (Gen I, though). I have driven Gen II cars and i think i can speak on them a bit ...
here goes ... both cars are fast! both cars are fun!
i think your decision basically comes down to what you expect from a car.
if you want to drag race just for fun, then the MR2 will do just fine, but if you plan to take it serious levels of competition, go with the Rx-7. in my opinion, the Rx-7 is better suited for it in a few key ways ... the MR2 may be rear drive, but it basically has a front-drive tranny in it ... the shifter and tranny in the Rx-7 make for much quicker shifting without modifictaion. also, it doesn't take much to get the MR2 to lift the front wheel in a serious launch ... it says a lot for the traction (because the M has better traction) but it's a bit unnerving, escpecially if you're not used to it.
as far as power and mods go ... there is a lot more out there for the T2 than there is for the MR2. also, the MR2 parts usually cost a bit more.
in terms of ultimate power, the MR2 will push around 600 HP and still remain streetable - BUT ... and a very BIG BUT!!!! ... you WILL pay for it. i mean, you can easily rack up about $20G's in mods and still need stuff to fine tune relaibility into the motor. in my experiences thus far, the 3SGTE is damn near indestructible as long as you use your head ... they cost about $1500 to $2000 more (than a rotary) to build, but unlike the rotary, you don't have to do it all in one shot. the stock engine will take 400 HP with just bolts ons ... but i would not recommend doing that because you will run into reliability problems without preparing the engine for that level of power. another point to consider, is that the stock tranny will self-destruct in short order after you tip over the 400 HP mark! so that is a limiting factor ...
the Rx-7 can handle 600 HP, too - but i think 450-500 is about as far as you should go for the street, because over that ... you really have to stay on point to keep the engine from grenading! also ... again, this is just my opinion ... they don't seem to be as driveable as the MR2 when the power starts to get stratospheric (13B rotaries and torque don't have the best relationship - that's just their nature) don't get me wrong .. they move and they move quick ... but you've got to slip the clutch a lot more than in an MR2T.
in terms of handling, i must say that ultimately, i like the MR2 better. there's talk about lift-throttle oversteer, but the truth is that both the MR2 and the Rx-7 oversteer ... in fact the you'll get the Rx sideways a lot quicker than you'll get the MR2, but ... the difference is that the Rx-7 is more predictable. both are relatively easy to control (they both have good steering) ... but the MR2 does NOT like bumpy surfaces (especially when you need to brake or turn quickly)
now keep in mind that what i've said so far is just if you have the budget for that kind of performance ... if all you want is a car to drive around and maybe get an intake and exhaust ... then they are pretty even.
however ... as much as i love my MR2 and it WILL kick my Rx-7's ***!!!! - i still think the Rx-7 is a LOT more fun to drive.
good luck and hopefully this can help you make your decision. just consider this ... BE VERY CAREFUL ... i'm not saying that you can't know how to drive at 16, but take my word for it ... it's very easy to get yourself in a world of trouble with a N/A Rx-7 - much less a turbocharged Rx- or MR2! just looking out ... take it for what its worth.
(by the way ... at this rate, this means you should graduate to Ferrari by the time you're 30! and then there's no where else to go ...
)J~
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07-22-02, 12:15 AM
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Post a "what's better- RX7 or MR2" thread on an RX7 board, and by and large people are going to root for the RX7. Post it on an MR2 board, and you may be amazed to find the complete opposite response. It's all a matter of loyalties, and people who love and devote most of their time to a specific sort of car aren't a very objective source. I suggest doing research yourself (much of which can, and should, be on forums for both cars), focusing on what's important to you in a car, and then decide what most closely parallels what you want. Don't ask anyone else to decide for you.
07-22-02, 01:52 AM
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My order of choice would be:
1)3rd Gen RX-7
2)MKII MR2 Turbo
3)2nd Gen TII
4)2nd Gen NA
5)MKII MR2 NA
Check out a SC mr2. Put a turbo kit on it and you can run more power form the stock engine than you can with either an FC or an MKII Turbo. (25psi stock bottom end limit, 15psi stock ecu limit)
1)3rd Gen RX-7
2)MKII MR2 Turbo
3)2nd Gen TII
4)2nd Gen NA
5)MKII MR2 NA
Check out a SC mr2. Put a turbo kit on it and you can run more power form the stock engine than you can with either an FC or an MKII Turbo. (25psi stock bottom end limit, 15psi stock ecu limit)
12-31-03, 03:41 PM
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i do know that the headgaskets on the MR2's tend to fail just like the 4th gen (ithink its 4th gen?? 86+??) supras. if your 16, that pretty much explains that you dont have a decent amount of money. The thing is, you can pick up an FC for cheap but have to confront the reliability demons that come stock from the factory on an FC and many people on this board including me have spent considerable amounts of money to keep our cars running right (im at around $1300), on the otherhand A good turbo mr2 can cost alot more than an FC but you wont have any money left over to put in the MR2 but you get the toyota reliability. my .02 cents
01-02-04, 11:54 PM
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Listen nate dogg get the TII they are just as quick and can be quicker than a MR2.MR2s handle shitty when you take them to the limits.Save some money and get there cheaper....best bang for the buck.
01-03-04, 01:28 PM
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Check this out this guy barely takes off and look at the outcome lol........
http://www.ce.rit.edu/~mezz/crash.mpeg
Ohh and i also was going to get a MR2 instead of a FC but im glad i changed my mind.Good luck!
http://www.ce.rit.edu/~mezz/crash.mpeg
Ohh and i also was going to get a MR2 instead of a FC but im glad i changed my mind.Good luck!
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01-05-04, 07:19 PM
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i have to say 3rotor doesnt know what hes talking about, he has a video of a dumbass in an mr2, now he "knows" that an mr2 is uncontrollable and you will crash. ive seen an fc broken down on the side of the road, now i "know" that those things will break down ALL the time right? ive ridden in a near stock mr2 with a very good driver on a road course, he was smoking the crap out of s2000's, an fc, an sti, and some other slower cars, when you can drive the 2 to the limit, an fc will not even come close, the problem is learning the limit because they give very little warning before you start spinning. i got my mr2 for 7,200 so you can find them for a decent price. you buy a TII and sure you will pay less for it but with all the agrevation with fixing it and all the money you spend you will wish you got the mr2, trust me, i have a friend with one and that thing is the biggest money hole ive ever seen. btw i launch from 5k at the track and i never even come close to losing control like that guy in the video did, there will be dumbasses in every type of car.
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