For those that drive your FC in the winter ( snow )
12-14-04, 06:22 PM
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Well I bought toyo proxes 4's becuase they were all seasons. Well I should have thought that "ultra high performance" and "all season" in the same title was kinda redundant. Awesome dry traction. Way good rain traction. Really shitty snow traction.
12-14-04, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
This is about the 200th time that this has been covered. If you do a search for "winter driving", you should be able to find all the threads.
The FC does fine in the winter, as long as you know how to drive. Salt/rust is the reason I don't drive mine in the snow.
The FC does fine in the winter, as long as you know how to drive. Salt/rust is the reason I don't drive mine in the snow.
Your FC has been sitting in the garage the last couple of winters, that's why you haven't driven it in the snow.... right? 
12-14-04, 11:07 PM
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my car is extremly tail happy but its mostly the fact that i have near bald rear tires and am too lazy to go buy some snow tires. Anyways just work on throttle control you'll be just fine. Braking for me is just downshifting as brakes are pretty much useless on ice.
12-14-04, 11:14 PM
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I was just watching this little drift video I had laying around and it brought up a question. How does the rear tracking suspension work with slipage? Has it fucked you pros up in the past?
I've driven two other RWD vehicles in the winter with no problems, but am wondering if the DTSS screws with your road feel and perception of what your rear is doing. Driving so far, I've been able to accuratly huage how much force I can put on the car around a corner on dry pavement, but I'm hoping it doesn't screw with my perception too much.
I've driven two other RWD vehicles in the winter with no problems, but am wondering if the DTSS screws with your road feel and perception of what your rear is doing. Driving so far, I've been able to accuratly huage how much force I can put on the car around a corner on dry pavement, but I'm hoping it doesn't screw with my perception too much.
12-14-04, 11:46 PM
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well im not planning on taking my car out in the snow considering i have z rated tires and i took it in the rain and a civic pulled up reving engine so i took of first normal and went into 2nd at about 7000 and the car started fish tailing so snow is not an option for me and yet to that i dont have LSD...my car is hibernating this year
12-15-04, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by f1blueRx7
It helps to have an LSD, the nonLSD cars are TERRIBLE... but the LSD cars are REAL fun and they are a little harder to get stuck with. I'll be driving my black s5 in the snow this year, but more likely.. I'll just take the audi.
a little behind on the ball, none the less, at least they marketed it better.
12-15-04, 12:17 AM
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It depends on how much snow you get and how quick the snow plows are. In anything over 3" standing on the road my cars are absolutely useless regaurdless of what tires I have on. Just trying to make it up my street (which is pretty much a 5 degree incline) is a challenge in my FC's. I used to carry a 348 big block in the back to help weigh it down, and even then it sucked pretty bad.
12-15-04, 11:12 AM
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I've been driving a GXL everyday for almost 5 years now. I live in Missouri so I see every kind of weather.
In my opinion, it's not the best car for snow. But once I learned how to control it and know how it responds, I don't want to drive anything else.
The other day it snowed and I had to drive to work on the interstate, with no sign of plow/salt trucks. On an uphill the front tires caught into someone elses rut where they changed lanes. The rear wanted to keep going straight. So I started sliding, then let off the gas a little and snapped back straight. Almost as if I had intended to change lanes myself.
In my opinion, it's not the best car for snow. But once I learned how to control it and know how it responds, I don't want to drive anything else.
The other day it snowed and I had to drive to work on the interstate, with no sign of plow/salt trucks. On an uphill the front tires caught into someone elses rut where they changed lanes. The rear wanted to keep going straight. So I started sliding, then let off the gas a little and snapped back straight. Almost as if I had intended to change lanes myself.
12-15-04, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenteth
quatro 4/aws? Cars were a marvel for their time. Then gm came and and said "we just had this really cool idea" 10 years later a little behind on the ball, none the less, at least they marketed it better.
a little behind on the ball, none the less, at least they marketed it better.
12-15-04, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by uRizen
Your FC has been sitting in the garage the last couple of winters, that's why you haven't driven it in the snow.... right? For the first two years I owned the car, I drove it in the snow. First year, without snow tires at all. Never had a single problem. 2nd year, I got a set of Blizzacks, and it totally improved an already capable winter car.
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with driving a 2nd gen in the winter, if you don't mind rusting the car out in 10 years. If you have problems controlling the car, you are either driving too fast for the conditions, or don't know how to drive. Until I got my Insight, I had never driven a non-rotary non-RWD vehicle in the winter.
12-15-04, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Until I got my Insight, I had never driven a non-rotary non-RWD vehicle in the winter.
Now the 7 sits in the garage and we have 2 Jeep Grand Cherokees.
12-15-04, 03:47 PM
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RX-7 + snow= bad
I have an 88 convertible (one of the heavier FCs), and I drove it last winter with not a whole lot of luck. Due to its low profile and the fact that its rwd means you probally won't go anywhere fast. But, don't take it from me b/c I had bald tires at the time. But this year, im putting mine away for the winter and sticking to a borrowed winter truck 
12-15-04, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
That should be a treat in the winter with that 60/40 weight distribution and the 165 tires. Talk about tail happy.
12-15-04, 06:43 PM
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I tried the sandbags in the hatch on my GXL the first winter I owned it. It kept the tail down somewhat better but I had problems with understeer instead, and I thought that was much scarier than having the tail a little loose. I finally got snow tires and an LSD this year, and it makes an incredible difference, even when launching my streetport turbo.
12-15-04, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Insight is great. No problems swapping ends, and the thin tires cut right through the snow and slush. Only problem is that I get crappy mileage (about 50-60 MPG in the city). I've got the car stuck a few times, but then, who hasn't stuck a car?
12-16-04, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Kingofl337
Yeah but when he gets the bill for 2k for the batteries when they crap out we can get the final laugh. BWAHAHAH
12-16-04, 11:24 AM
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I ran all season Kumho's on the stock wheels on my RX7 last winter...
Between low torque, and a 5 speed, it's actually quite nice in the snow. This is assuming of course, that you know how to drive...
My FWD Grand Prix is actually MUCH worse in the winter (~475 lbs/ft of torque/~400 HP and an automatic = no traction, thank god for traction control systems. )
Between low torque, and a 5 speed, it's actually quite nice in the snow. This is assuming of course, that you know how to drive...
My FWD Grand Prix is actually MUCH worse in the winter (~475 lbs/ft of torque/~400 HP and an automatic = no traction, thank god for traction control systems. )
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