OF these FMIC's which should i get
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OF these FMIC's which should i get
first one :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
second one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
third one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
fourth one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
ill be using a stock s5 turbo (jspec) with a ported wastegate
dont plan on boosting much more than stock (10psi tops hopefully)
i want efficient cooling for the stock turbo basically ... i dont want the top mount anymore ...
im looking to avoid HEAVY custom work such as cutting .. i know that there will be some, but most people get away with minimal cuts from what i have read so far ..
any help would be great .. thanks
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
second one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
third one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
fourth one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT
ill be using a stock s5 turbo (jspec) with a ported wastegate
dont plan on boosting much more than stock (10psi tops hopefully)
i want efficient cooling for the stock turbo basically ... i dont want the top mount anymore ...
im looking to avoid HEAVY custom work such as cutting .. i know that there will be some, but most people get away with minimal cuts from what i have read so far ..
any help would be great .. thanks
rest of mods in signature
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the saab ic works good i usto have a 9000 turbo and i know alot of people that had 900 turbo that put thoses ic on and it would give 2 or 3 psi more due to so much surface area and it should fit really nice in your fc with a little modification
thats my 2cents
thats my 2cents
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If I were you, I wouldn't bother.
You're trying to keep it under 10psi - that's good enough for the stock IC.
ANY FMIC is going to add lag - due to the extra pipes.
I mean it's nice to think you're worried about intake temps, but I find it a bit overkill for your needs.
If you're trying to get cheap, don't bother in the first place.
A proper FMIC, even with eBay cores, is still going to cost you over $500 to complete.
-Ted
You're trying to keep it under 10psi - that's good enough for the stock IC.
ANY FMIC is going to add lag - due to the extra pipes.
I mean it's nice to think you're worried about intake temps, but I find it a bit overkill for your needs.
If you're trying to get cheap, don't bother in the first place.
A proper FMIC, even with eBay cores, is still going to cost you over $500 to complete.
-Ted
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ok I'm probably shooting myself in the foot right now because I really wanted this ic but it looks like I've got other issues right now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742
as far as the starion go here
http://1300cc.com/howto/how2/frontend/phase5.htm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742
as far as the starion go here
http://1300cc.com/howto/how2/frontend/phase5.htm
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Originally Posted by RETed
If I were you, I wouldn't bother.
You're trying to keep it under 10psi - that's good enough for the stock IC.
ANY FMIC is going to add lag - due to the extra pipes.
I mean it's nice to think you're worried about intake temps, but I find it a bit overkill for your needs.
If you're trying to get cheap, don't bother in the first place.
A proper FMIC, even with eBay cores, is still going to cost you over $500 to complete.
-Ted
You're trying to keep it under 10psi - that's good enough for the stock IC.
ANY FMIC is going to add lag - due to the extra pipes.
I mean it's nice to think you're worried about intake temps, but I find it a bit overkill for your needs.
If you're trying to get cheap, don't bother in the first place.
A proper FMIC, even with eBay cores, is still going to cost you over $500 to complete.
-Ted
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Send me your BMX parts
Early on in my RX-7 life I tried a Starion with stock turbo and the pressure drop was in the 5psi range....Not good! and like Ted said with the boost level you plan on running the lag will suck, and then with a pressure drop like that then you have to compensate by turning up the boost, so your intake temps really won't improve much.
12psi and under I would stay with the TMIC. I ran some great 1/4 times with one. Here is what I used way back when: large ported S5 motor, stock turbo, 850 2nds, Bosch-800hp fuel pump and reg, and then ran (are sitting down 15psi on C-116 fuel... ran a best 12.0 @ 116mph on Mickey's on that setup back in 96. Poor turbo screamed stop the whole way doen the 1320 heeeheee.
12psi and under I would stay with the TMIC. I ran some great 1/4 times with one. Here is what I used way back when: large ported S5 motor, stock turbo, 850 2nds, Bosch-800hp fuel pump and reg, and then ran (are sitting down 15psi on C-116 fuel... ran a best 12.0 @ 116mph on Mickey's on that setup back in 96. Poor turbo screamed stop the whole way doen the 1320 heeeheee.
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Originally Posted by RETed
If I were you, I wouldn't bother.
You're trying to keep it under 10psi - that's good enough for the stock IC.
ANY FMIC is going to add lag - due to the extra pipes..
-Ted
You're trying to keep it under 10psi - that's good enough for the stock IC.
ANY FMIC is going to add lag - due to the extra pipes..
-Ted
Sorry not true at all, with my Greddy VSPL on my RX7and stock turbo and my IRC Race core (HUGE Spearco core 28x10.5x3.5) I picked up boost responce.
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Originally Posted by LT8TurboII
Sorry not true at all, with my Greddy VSPL on my RX7and stock turbo and my IRC Race core (HUGE Spearco core 28x10.5x3.5) I picked up boost responce.
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What does an ECU have to do with the intercooler? They werent done at the same time, and the car was tuned before the intercooler, buy just bolting on the intercooler I picked up just as much responce as I did removing the AFM, both are very worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by LT8TurboII
What does an ECU have to do with the intercooler? They werent done at the same time, and the car was tuned before the intercooler, buy just bolting on the intercooler I picked up just as much responce as I did removing the AFM, both are very worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by RETed
You're trying to keep it under 10psi - that's good enough for the stock IC.
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Originally Posted by RETed
duh, you just answered your own question, and you don't even know it...
-Ted
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Ok, Ted, you belive what you want, I have put FMIC's on over 10 RX7's and DSM's and heard nothing but the same thing, we haev been friends for a while Ted (what 6 years now?) but the condecending tone can get old.
Of course you say you can't make more than 240rw on a stock turbo, but its been done time and time again, with FMIC's, stadnalones etc and without.
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Originally Posted by LT8TurboII
Ok, Ted, you belive what you want, I have put FMIC's on over 10 RX7's and DSM's and heard nothing but the same thing, we haev been friends for a while Ted (what 6 years now?) but the condecending tone can get old.
Of course you say you can't make more than 240rw on a stock turbo, but its been done time and time again, with FMIC's, stadnalones etc and without.
Of course you say you can't make more than 240rw on a stock turbo, but its been done time and time again, with FMIC's, stadnalones etc and without.
Come on, you gotta be kidding me when you have no idea what I'm talking about when you're using a stand-alone EMS.
How do you increase reponse on a turbo in the mid-range with a stand-alone EMS?
You jack up the timing.
Don't tell me you didn't know that, cause if you didn't...we don't even want to go there.
I'm assuming stock ECU, which you cannot change the ignition timing.
Just slapping on an FMIC on a stock ECU FC is almost never going to increase it's reponse.
Come on, that's common sense...increase intake track length and all.
Most people know this.
Why you busting my ***** on this???
Yeah, and that 240hp to the wheels bet on a Mustang Dyno - you said you gave up on it.
So why you keep bringing it up?
Yes, I've seen the proof from Hassan on his 260hp run, but it was on a DynoJet I believe.
If this is Dan, WTF you busting my ***** in this thread for?
You telling me we're friends but you pull this **** on me?
Come on dude?
What crawled up your ***?
-Ted
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Originally Posted by RETed
I have no idea who you are, but when I saw "Pensacola, FL" there's a few people you could be.
Come on, you gotta be kidding me when you have no idea what I'm talking about when you're using a stand-alone EMS.
How do you increase reponse on a turbo in the mid-range with a stand-alone EMS?
You jack up the timing.
Don't tell me you didn't know that, cause if you didn't...we don't even want to go there.
I'm assuming stock ECU, which you cannot change the ignition timing.
Just slapping on an FMIC on a stock ECU FC is almost never going to increase it's reponse.
Come on, that's common sense...increase intake track length and all.
Most people know this.
Why you busting my ***** on this???
Yeah, and that 240hp to the wheels bet on a Mustang Dyno - you said you gave up on it.
So why you keep bringing it up?
Yes, I've seen the proof from Hassan on his 260hp run, but it was on a DynoJet I believe.
If this is Dan, WTF you busting my ***** in this thread for?
You telling me we're friends but you pull this **** on me?
Come on dude?
What crawled up your ***?
-Ted
Come on, you gotta be kidding me when you have no idea what I'm talking about when you're using a stand-alone EMS.
How do you increase reponse on a turbo in the mid-range with a stand-alone EMS?
You jack up the timing.
Don't tell me you didn't know that, cause if you didn't...we don't even want to go there.
I'm assuming stock ECU, which you cannot change the ignition timing.
Just slapping on an FMIC on a stock ECU FC is almost never going to increase it's reponse.
Come on, that's common sense...increase intake track length and all.
Most people know this.
Why you busting my ***** on this???
Yeah, and that 240hp to the wheels bet on a Mustang Dyno - you said you gave up on it.
So why you keep bringing it up?
Yes, I've seen the proof from Hassan on his 260hp run, but it was on a DynoJet I believe.
If this is Dan, WTF you busting my ***** in this thread for?
You telling me we're friends but you pull this **** on me?
Come on dude?
What crawled up your ***?
-Ted
awwwww lets take the long lost friend reunion to a different thread thanks.
the starion IC sucks. i have one...
get the greddy core if possible.
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Originally Posted by RETed
I'm assuming stock ECU, which you cannot change the ignition timing.
Just slapping on an FMIC on a stock ECU FC is almost never going to increase it's reponse.
Come on, that's common sense...increase intake track length and all.
Most people know this.
Just slapping on an FMIC on a stock ECU FC is almost never going to increase it's reponse.
Come on, that's common sense...increase intake track length and all.
Most people know this.