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Old 12-01-05 | 09:37 PM
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Question Tein Pillow Ball

Hi everyone!

If someone has Tein Pillow ***** installed, could you please tell me how much harder the suspension became after installing them?

My factory has worn and i'm looking for a new ones... Deciding between OEM replacement (ie MOOG) or aftermarket ones like TEIN... What would you recommend? I have bad roads in region.

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Old 12-01-05 | 10:45 PM
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It does make the ride harsher, if the damper and spring combo are not carefully matched.

The center spherical bearing does wear out and will make all kinds of noises later on.


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Old 12-01-05 | 11:04 PM
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Thanks RETed!

Will MOOG's replacement ones work as well as stock?
Old 12-01-05 | 11:10 PM
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Also, I read somewhere that the pillowball mounts can't take as much stress as the stock mounts.
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Originally Posted by p4nc7
Also, I read somewhere that the pillowball mounts can't take as much stress as the stock mounts.
I tend to agree...
The stock strut mounts (at least the front ones are) rubber with a spinning bearing in it.
The *best* front upper camber plates that mimic this is the now defunct K2RD units.
Ground Control offers their version with the same Torrington bearing, but they are NOT made for the FC, no matter what they claim - these are VW Rabbit / GTI units that are close enough to fit the FC. :P

Almost all the Japan tuner ones just have the spherical bearing, which are not mean to take loads axially - this is why they fail.


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Old 12-02-05 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
I tend to agree...
The stock strut mounts (at least the front ones are) rubber with a spinning bearing in it.
The *best* front upper camber plates that mimic this is the now defunct K2RD units.
Ground Control offers their version with the same Torrington bearing, but they are NOT made for the FC, no matter what they claim - these are VW Rabbit / GTI units that are close enough to fit the FC. :P

Almost all the Japan tuner ones just have the spherical bearing, which are not mean to take loads axially - this is why they fail.


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I used the stock bearing to take the axial force off the pillow ball. All axial force is displaced onto the frame of the camber plate, not the pillow ball. You would have to rig something up to make this setup work with different camber plates and spring perches.

However you slice it, there is no reason to go with pillow ***** unless you require camber adjustments other than stock.
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Old 12-03-05 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by eyeoutthere
I used the stock bearing to take the axial force off the pillow ball. All axial force is displaced onto the frame of the camber plate, not the pillow ball. You would have to rig something up to make this setup work with different camber plates and spring perches.
That's an excellent idea!


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