fcdrifter13

I saw that event. *** won if I am not mistaken. The HKS drift show is still one of the better vids I have. It shows that Tony Hawk stole the Boom boom huck jam from them and just replaced the cars withskate boards and bikes. lol. It also shows what American drifting could have been. And that is FUN TO WATCH tarzan made the show ok.

D1>all. If you have the Drift bible good for you, now buy the rest of the Best Motoring series and they will explain everything Ted has said. Will you believe it then, probably not, cause Tak fo Sho cant loose in his 86 to an FD, please grow up and realize that this is just a cartoon.

86 good to learn, other cars are better for competiton. I learned the hard way. I was all Mad Tyte yo then I turned 19, American drifting came and I learned that it sucked and there were better things I could spend my time and money on besides trying to build a 400hp breadbox.

GtoRx7

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I enjoy drifting as much as the next guy (assuming they enjoy it), and my car is mostly built for track/drift, and I have attended more than a few comps. Here is what I have seen so far. At the local tracks, everyone is on the inital D bandwagon with the AE86, and not making fun, but most are broke young kids. They dont have comp. suspension, or a real LSD, and they suck ***** drifting. Most 86's suck ***** drifting.

Now if you watch the 05' D1 video , Ueo drives a AE86 with 200hp, and does twin drift with some 450+ FD's and even a 700hp mustang JR drives. BUT, I mean BUT, you have to realize drifitng is a crowd pleaser, and the judges KNOW that a lower power car such as a 200hp 86, cant keep up with the higher ones. SO, the AE86's are not required to drift the very large outside turns of the track, to keep up with the High HP cars that ARE required to do it. This keeps things more crowd pleasing, but in reality makes people believe in little low hp cars. So there you go, you have to watch closely in all those videos!

Oh yeah torque is kinda mis-leading for drifting, as high HP, high rpm, low torque cars can be geared shorter, making the wheel torque the same

fcdrifter13

Ok again that car has 320-425Hp. They just say 200 or W/e because they want to lure in kids to buy an 86 to buy there stuff to be like that guy. Thats all. its all just marketing, that is all. Make a car look like it can compete with this little of stuff, all the lil fan boys go out and buys that stuff cause its so great that that under HPed car can keep up with that 50k or 90k car.

RETed

You really need to do your research before posting replies...

The 4AGE makes 130hp stock.
To get the 4AGE to put out 180hp, even if it's bhp at the flywheel requires a LOT OF MONEY.
We're talking head work, cams, and you almost gotta trash the entire intake system - i.e. ITB's or big carbs.
Then, trying to find a NICE 4AGE header is next to impossible - these things are GOLD for the Hachi crowd - I'm talking about the old TRD or Cusco units which are discontinued.
We're talking about a $5k engine here!

A stock Hachi hatch weighs more like 2500 min, but it can be easily lightened.
Lightened down to 2100, it's a deathtrap!

One thing bad about the Hachi is it's BRAKES.
They are TERRIBLE, and Hachi guys are constantly looking for "big brake" upgrades.

Not to sound rude, but...
Please, stop posting until you know what you're talking about.
Do the research first, then come in here and talk tech.
You're really showing your ignorance on the subject, and there are a lot of other members who know what they are talking about.

And when *I* talk about drifting, I'm talking about 100mph in 4th gear slides.
Not parking lot 1st and 2nd gear ****...

The lightness and short wheelbase hurts the Hachi here.
Add the low power, and you're smoking a pipe dream...


-Ted

RETed

They don't call gearing "torque multipliers" for nothing!


-Ted

Bigretardhead

hahahaha!!!! and you know this, how? how can you possibly believe an N/A 4age can make that much power? it CAN'T. even the formula atlantic versions don't make more than like 240hp, and those are built to the limit for the 4age. in N/A form, I don't think its possible to make that much power from a 4age.

marketing? for who? individual people who happen to have an AE86 they want to sell? I'm sure D1 cares about them. 'rolls eyes'.

and 'if', we'll just say 'if' ueo's car did happen to have that much power, he'd be running at least 235 width really grippy tires... like neova's or something. not 185 potenza's...

I HAVE. I had a modified suspension, LSD, and stock motor w/ 250k miles and a k&n cone filter. I had no problem drifting it.... sure, it was definetly underpowerd. but I could still do it. (with 185 all season tires) the right suspension setup and a good driver can make a 112hp corolla do pretty well(well, that would be brand new, and at sea level...I wander how much power I had after 250k miles, and at 6k feet?). I can only imagine if I had an extra 100hp like ueo's car....
but you're right, AE86 is a piece of ****. weak chassis, solid rear axle, short wheelbase(almost forgot), low power, etc.... but its still fun to drive, and with the right driver can hang with a lot of higher power cars.

fcdrifter13

Ive never ever siad it was NA. All the manufactures have kicked into high gear making parts for the Ae86 again, from APC to Injen.

And if its not running this power please do explain to me oh mighty mighty drift good(lol) how is it a Ae86 can keep up with the Viper or GTO that are going full bore off the line. Oh wait damn you cant.

Bigretardhead

well, the magazine says its N/A, and pictures of it... not to mention the sound of it

btw, I'm pretty sure both Injen and APC both don't make any parts for the AE86.

so you decided to say it had 330-425hp because you 'thought' it would need to have that much power to keep up? you seemed so confident, I really wanted to know how you 'knew' this information.

also,noone ever said ueo can keep up in a straight line. they're not having an acceleration battle.....

some advice for you sir, what you 'THINK', is not always the 'TRUTH'.


btw, look through here... there's some vids of some lower powered AE86's against some higher powered cars... I don't know how much power they have, but you can tell they fall back in the straight.
http://msj.advan.com/fan/mov/cont.jsp

bigj50

you sound like a dumb ***............... i'm not a big drifting fan boy but i can tell you dont really know anything about drifting.... it is aginst the rules to go "full bore off the line" for the reson of........ yea a 150hp corolla or a 250hp 240sx(sr20det) can not keep up with a 450hp s15 or a 600hp GTO.....in a drag race.

motoman93117

big stickerz big tip and umm boom boom stereo

Aaron Cake

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And we're done here.

The topic was about a supercharged "drift" FC. We've covered this about as well as can be done, and now it's moved into other areas...