SO? Now its Ok to stick a Turbo on an N/A engine,
02-28-05, 04:13 AM
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SO? Now its Ok to stick a Turbo on an N/A engine,
few months ago People are saying there is No possible way you can put a turbo on a
N/a engine with high comp rotors? then i saw a thread with someone saying they DID? is this true, and is there anyone that can back it up? cause for like the last 8 months i been in here people have been saying you cant, So its like whos RIGHT?
N/a engine with high comp rotors? then i saw a thread with someone saying they DID? is this true, and is there anyone that can back it up? cause for like the last 8 months i been in here people have been saying you cant, So its like whos RIGHT?
02-28-05, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam
People are saying there is No possible way you can put a turbo on a
N/a engine with high comp rotors...
N/a engine with high comp rotors...
02-28-05, 06:12 AM
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You can put a turbo on an n/a motor, but why would you..
A. the motor was not intended for turbo, so you have high compression rotors. More chance of detonation there.
b. It would cost you just as much to set up a turbo on an n/a motor as it would just to get a turbo II engine and install it. I have done a few turbo II conversions now, and its really not that hard. Harder to fabricate all the **** to put turbo on n/a.
A. the motor was not intended for turbo, so you have high compression rotors. More chance of detonation there.
b. It would cost you just as much to set up a turbo on an n/a motor as it would just to get a turbo II engine and install it. I have done a few turbo II conversions now, and its really not that hard. Harder to fabricate all the **** to put turbo on n/a.
02-28-05, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gotrotors?
You can put a turbo on an n/a motor, but why would you..
A. the motor was not intended for turbo, so you have high compression rotors. More chance of detonation there.
A. the motor was not intended for turbo, so you have high compression rotors. More chance of detonation there.
b. It would cost you just as much to set up a turbo on an n/a motor as it would just to get a turbo II engine and install it. I have done a few turbo II conversions now, and its really not that hard. Harder to fabricate all the **** to put turbo on n/a.
As for the thread starter, where have you been the last 4 years?
I did this 4 years ago and posted the entire process. Before me, several other members (notably VtekEater) did this. And back in the day, Cartech made a turbo kit for the NA 2nd gen (as well as the 1st gens).
02-28-05, 10:47 AM
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I agree Aaron, it does spool super fast with a 6port motor. I also happen to enjoy fabricating things to make the turbo work on an na. And when its all done yuo have a setup, probably like no one else.
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Oi!
The problem around here has been a lack of turbo education. Too many forum parrots echoing what they've heard time & time again from the "old guys".
Fact is, turboing an hi compression motor & turboing a low(er) compression motor is the same process! Both need more fuel/intercooling/management to be done right, the difference being which one is closer to maximum combusion pressure when not under boost. The closer you are to this point, the lower boost needed to hit the combustion pressure wall. Some see this as a benefit, others see it as a detriment.
Fact is, turboing an hi compression motor & turboing a low(er) compression motor is the same process! Both need more fuel/intercooling/management to be done right, the difference being which one is closer to maximum combusion pressure when not under boost. The closer you are to this point, the lower boost needed to hit the combustion pressure wall. Some see this as a benefit, others see it as a detriment.
02-28-05, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gotrotors?
.......More chance of detonation there........
Combustion temperature not ratio, that's the real problem. Proper fuel mixtures (and fuel quality/octane) is more vital the higher the CR, intercooling becomes manditory as well.
02-28-05, 06:11 PM
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wow you've been around this long and didn't know i can't belive it there is a thread on it like every day. I love the benifits and i think it will be more rewarding to have done so much work to my own car
02-28-05, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by totallimmortal
wow you've been around this long and didn't know i can't belive it there is a thread on it like every day. I love the benifits and i think it will be more rewarding to have done so much work to my own car
I should know. I've started like 6 of them.
03-01-05, 04:27 AM
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Those who think that turocharging a high-comp motor is bad should have a look around at new turbo engines and see the CR's they run. They might be surprised...
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03-01-05, 06:55 AM
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Hmm- I have done the first stage of a turbo conversion on my 88 vert (turbo tranny & rear end) and was going to toss a turbo motor with standalone, fmic, e-fan, proper fuel, etc.
Perhaps rebuilding and turboing my n/a (with above mentioned mods as well) motor might be a consideration I had overlooked...
For now I will dive into the search function and see what I can dig up on this...
Perhaps rebuilding and turboing my n/a (with above mentioned mods as well) motor might be a consideration I had overlooked...
For now I will dive into the search function and see what I can dig up on this...
03-01-05, 05:08 PM
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high compression means you'll have better responce, fast spool, more overall HP and TQ per PSI and good off boost caricteristics (sp?). the disadvantages are that you have to run 93+ octain fuel, it's more detionation prone so a good tune is mandentory and thats all i can think of. I think S4 N/A motors would take a turbo a little easyer just because that have slightly less compression then S5 N/A motors. my .02
03-01-05, 08:01 PM
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Even thought the repeated threads are getting annoying i'm glad the word is getting out. when i first found this forum i was discouraged about the idea. Not that i wasn't inspired by aaron's write up but it seemed everone on the forum was againts the idea.
03-02-05, 03:25 PM
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This thread is being closed because this topic is either covered in the FAQ or has been covered many times before. It is suggested that you make use of the search feature and read the FAQ to find your answer. If you still cannot find what you are looking for, then feel free to post your question indicating that you have already looked for an answer, and someone will probably be happy to help.
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