DC350

He opens the hood and about pisses his pants, apparently if it ain't stock its not mazda. He wonders why the air pump is gone, he is wondering why the a/c and p/s are gone. So i told him what the problem was...with the erratic idle, and the jerkin and crap, and i tell him i was told the TPS could be suspect. He thought that my car might not even have a TPS, but i told them you guys had told me...

So whatever, the guy tells me to go fix my electrical system before he starts diagnosing. He was going to check for vaccum leaks.

Right at the end, hes like....watch out who you talk to on the internet, they can say there experts but there really not. Moral of the story, i knew they were arrogant and what-not but i didn't know they were ********

The drivers side door there is a control panel. He kicks it and the idiot lights work. Perhaps there is a different solution then just cold solder all the time.

evan

RETed

Yeah, and can you believe these guys get PAID to be like that?


It could also be causing further damage...

I knew this thread was trouble due to the subject line...

I work on my car, BECAUSE the local Mazda dealer refuses to work on my car due to it being "too modified"...


-Ted

DC350

I do know what you mean. These guys are retards. I'm going to take apart that little computer right now, and make sure all the little connections are tight. Without any corrosion. Yeah, it was trouble. I'm not going back there ANY time soon.

Could anyone shed more light on why the car was bucking?

After the idiot lights worked, from the little computer being bumped everything seemed to work out okay.

Also- does it damage the power steering wrack by not using the pump?

BadBoy

bring it to RETed's house im sure he can fix just about anything :P just prolly bring the bbq and the beer hehe

Fred

OC_

OK, this is what you do. Get a sign and in big red paint write 'F*** YOU' on it and putt it under your hood. Then drive to the dealer and say somthing just came up with your car and you would like them to see what the problem is...

Blowtus

dc, the troubleshooting process I explained to you is really very easy, and might give you a bit more confidence sorting things out in future. I knew nothing before getting stuck in with the multimeter. Before you assume it's the tps you may as well test it. If you don't have a multimeter it's a very cheap and seriously useful tool... one end goes to ground the other to the input.


Charlie

Erik

LMAO! hahaha


i actually had a good experience with a mazda dealer in VA when they did the seatbelt recall for me...but that didn't deal with the motor so.........

DC350

Yeah, that would be Hilarious.... Sorry, i will buy a multimeter tomorrow. Thanks Charlie once again, i guess i just got thrown off, by the mazda dealer tellin me that i didn't even have a TPS.. Otherwide i wouldn't have taken your advice. But now i'm back on track.

fastrotaries

Lawrence Hall mazda in Abilene TX, said my car needed the timing adjusted and that i shouldn't have put in those high performance cams. I told him that without the cams i can't prop up my hatch.....he didn't get it.

Their brains would explode if i took it there now with the haltech. Literally explode.

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So i go to the mazda dealership..... and he said "what's a rotor?"

88 SE

Reminds me of my Mazda dealer that tried to convince me that the water o ring was a head gasket

DC350

hahah, so true. If they hired some of us we could pull off better stuff. The guy seemed to think that the egr valve was unplugged, i didn't have a tps, the air pump disables numerous things....

I like the cam joke

autocrash

well.. uhmm... my only experience with the mazda dealership was when I was gonna get a compression test done, they didn't even know what a ****** rotary was! ahh well... other than that I just buy my part there... the local dealership is pretty good... I've seen a few of the 7's they worked on... they came back alright...

dmyers

I took mine into my local dealership to have them check to determine what was causing my idle problem. They kept the car all day and never did anything because they didn't have a functioning compression tester and couldn't get one until the next day. When I asked them if they had anyone who was familiar or experienced with rotaries, he said he only had 2 Mazda techs period and only 1 had ever worked on a rotary period. They wanted to keep the car another day and I said no thanks.

I did however find a Mazda dealership in Greensboro, NC that has 1 guy who is a rotary guru and he has kicked *** everytime I have taken my car to him.

jon88se

do you think some Mazda techs will be trained w some rotary knowledge now that the RX-8 is coming??

jmseven

Damn....kinda make me worried about the new RX-8's.....should we trust them to even do the maintainance.!!?!?!??!?

What if the **** UP...then what, they blame the owner?!?!?!?

jmseven

Sorry....what if THEY **** UP...(meaning the techs)

Rotorific

iTrader: (1)

I dont let mazda touch my **** cause theyll **** it up we dont have a true rotary mechanic there but then again i know how to do anything and everything to my car so go figure my friend has gone there so much they know him by a first name basis and hes actually had to go in there because of junk they jacked up....but of course they didnt do it.... Idiots....oh yeah today i walk into the showroom for a sec because i see this orange mita and low and behold i saw a damn mustang engine in it i about got sick....bleh

hawk 7

iTrader: (2)

I would never take my car to a dealership but he does have a point about people giving advice over the internet. This site is big enough that you can get pretty good answers. I'll give you and example of misinformation. When I was selling cars a couple of years ago I sold this lady a grand am. She said the headlights where not lined up properly and we had it into the dealership serveral times. Each time we paid for a rental car. Anyways she said she had been talking to a Pontiac representative online and that there was a defect from the factory and she wanted all this work done under warranty. I told her to bring in the emails from the Pontiac rep and I will have it taken car of. Well she bring in the emails and I look up the site and it was a guy who just owned ONE grand am and he was just giving his opinions. Sometimes people on the net, no matter how passionate or even how high the post count can give out incorrect information.

eViLRotor

iTrader: (2)

RX-8 owners are going to be royally screwed when it comes time to repair something rotary related on their cars.

I doubt that Mazda is even bothering with training any of these clowns on Rx-8 related stuff at the moment. The first car that they get in for repairs at each dealership will probably be the training car, lol

fastrotaries

man that is so true......still though the dealerships don't know jack about rotaries....and they're the company that sold the car. It keeps me up late at night.

DC350

I know what you mean about the misinfromation. But without this forum my car would be at mazda alot more. There are alot of really really smart people on this forum in all different areas of the cars. But there are some misleaders....

restoring83

If it makes you feel any better, the local dealership tried to tell me that I needed to replace my timing belt on my 86. I tried to tell him that there IS no timing belt, and he asked: "Then how do you expect the cylinders to time correctly hmm? (with a cocky attitude)" I replied: "Oh... Well, can you check my o-rings while you're at it then...." and I took my car away from the bad people....

hawk 7

iTrader: (2)

I totally agree with you I never take my car into a Mazda dealership.

Piranha

Just like when rotary engines first came out, Mazda trained mechanics to work on the rotary engine. No way would they put all that money down, work SO hard on developing the engine (first, then the car) to see it flop, and then have the same nightmares as the 3rd gen. Both dealers I live by (here, and at my other home away from school) have been great for me. Many people in the metro detroit area take their car to the dealer I've dealt with; because they have a guy that works on Rotaries. before I knew how to work on my car, I took it there a couple times. Both have been great for ordering parts. For example, I've had to order 2 dollar parts, and they would have no problem express shipping it for 30 cents extra, and give me a discount.

Sorry I got off on a Tangent. Yeah, so they really would not release the RX-8 without support for it. Just like when a new airplane comes out in the Air Force... they train people to work on it.
Also, the emissions are MUCH better now on the car technology-wise, I don't know if they had them all on the show engine they had sitting out at the Detroit Auto Show, but it looked a LOT less complicated. I've also read that having side exhaust ports helps with emissions too.